update.. Re: [FADCA] Re: Bartow Switch

Tue Jan 3 21:15:07 EST 2006

Chuck, and other FADCA ops
I spoke with Richard Sharp, KQ4KX, trustee for wc4pem, He likes what all is
coming about on the switch for bartow. Now, some questions he has,
1) on the backbone frequency, does it or can it be 1 frequency?
2) if one freq., can Bartow use an omni (160') as part of a redundiant
    system between tpa, arcadia, and clearmont?
3) could Bartow possibly be a HUB location?
4) will there be a need for internet access on the FPAC part?
5) how many ports can this switch go to?
6) what modifacations are needed for the KPC-3 +?

In talking with Richard, there are ongoing projects taking place at this 
time
so the NEED IT NOW is not numeral uno. Projected turn on can be anywhere
from 3 months to 9 months from Febuary or March... (tower rebuild) as for 
now
I hope to get a KPC-3+ to Chuck at ORL Hamfest or sooner if he travles 
through
Polk county anytime soon.

Back to you Chuck.

Evans

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Chuck Hast" <wchast at gmail.com>
To: "Evans F. Mitchell KD4EFM / AFA2TH FL" <kd4efm at kd4efm.org>
Cc: "FADCA" <fadca at mailman.qth.net>; "Charles Schuman K4GBB" 
<k4gbb at earthlink.net>; "Richard Sharp, KQ4KX" <kq4kx at arrl.net>; "FPAC" 
<fpac at f6fbb.org>
Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2005 6:14 PM
Subject: [FADCA] Re: Bartow Switch

On 12/28/05, Evans F. Mitchell KD4EFM / AFA2TH FL <kd4efm at kd4efm.org> wrote:
> I am going to get ahold of Richard Sharp, who is the trustee for
> WC4PEM, and see if it would be ok to send one tnc over (one I am using)
> and see what happens. As far as the BACKBONE goes....
> I have yet to even get invovled on that angle other then being able to
> use one radio and tnc to get ARCADIA a solid link northward......
> again, I have not even begun to start a path study to see what could be
> done...

The ideal would be a dedicated link out from your site to each neighbor
site but we all have cost constraints.

> heck, for all I know 220 might be the way to go instead of 440.. Any
> Idea's??

Yes, that would be a good solution, the only readily available 220 Mhz
radio that does 9k6 that I can think of at this moment is the Tait radio.

There maybe some amateur boxes out there that will do 9k6, we will have
to investigate. We would need to obtain a radio for this end.

I think we can probably do a triad of Tampa Arcadia  and Bartow on
the same frequency since we can hear and most of the time work Arcadia.
That way you could make do with one radio on that path.

You will most definitly need a second set radio to deal with the east
bound path. If all were on the same freq  you are in the middle and
the far ends would not hear each other.

>
> Let me talk to Richard and I will get back to you Chuck.
>
> Evans
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Chuck Hast" <wchast at gmail.com>
> To: "Evans F. Mitchell KD4EFM / AFA2TH FL" <kd4efm at kd4efm.org>; "FPAC"
> <fpac at f6fbb.org>; "FADCA" <fadca at mailman.qth.net>; "Charles Schuman K4GBB"
> <k4gbb at earthlink.net>
> Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2005 12:01 AM
> Subject: Bartow Switch
>
>
> On 12/27/05, Evans F. Mitchell KD4EFM / AFA2TH FL <kd4efm at kd4efm.org> 
> wrote:
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Chuck Hast" <wchast at gmail.com>
> > To: "Florida Amateur Digital Communication Association"
> > <fadca at mailman.qth.net>
> > Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2005 11:29 PM
> > Subject: Re: [FADCA] ORL Hamcation, or who else to call
> >
> >
> > On 12/27/05, Evans F. Mitchell KD4EFM / AFA2TH FL <kd4efm at kd4efm.org>
> > wrote:
> > > Chuck, any chance you could bring the BARTOW NODE with you???
> > >
> >
> > I can, I was going to put Linux on it and that way it will be upgraded.
> > I do not have a call nor a address for it (use the area code and the
> > local CO it is found it)
> >
> > * I was hoping for 863534 (which is Bartow's PSTN Exchange)
> > The call would be under: WC4PEM
> Good info...
>
>
> > The TNC in mind would be the KPC-3+ (with the upgraded mem)
> >
> Oopps, I do not have one. But Bud & Co. are using them. If you can get
> it to me that will give me a chance to play with it too. That way we can
> make sure it is all working right.
>
> > How many ports is it going to have? Also what TNC's are you planning
> > on putting on it? I do not recall that it has a NIC card in it, if it
> > did I would
> > put it on the 'net and let Charlie do his magic so it will be standard
> > with
> > the rest. Indeed that is probably what I will do here is just get the CD
> > on
> > it and let him get the info from you and get it ready. I am so busy with
> > the new job that I may not get it as well as he will. (besides he
> > indicated
> > he is having fun at it too)
> >
> > *I will have to see if I have a spare NIC, but I don't thing I do 
> > (mother
> > nature of course)
> > but go ahead and put one in it and let Charlie bang it up.
>
> Let see what I have around here.
> >
> > * As far as ports go, LAN was going to work with 144.960 <?> have to 
> > look
> > at
> > past emails,
> > and the UHF one would be and OMNI so it can work Desoto, Tpa, and orl /
> > clearmont. (KPC-3+ also)
> >
> You should think about a dedicated link to TPA and dedicated links out to
> each of your other sites. If we put all on a single freq we will be back 
> to
> the
> good old days and we DO NOT want to go there again. That is the present
> problem with trying to run a link down to SRQ and over to Arcadia, we can
> hear them in Tampa, but there are stations over the horizon that Tampa can
> not hear and so we get hidden terminal something bad. If you have to stack
> devices on a channel I think that it is probably best to try to Tampa on a
> separate link, and if Arcadia will put on a separate radio then we can do 
> a
> triad, since we can hear Arcadia there would not be HTS if it was just BOW
> TPA  and Arcadia. Then a second radio would probably handle Clermont
> and ORL. After that if we see a heavy traffic trend on any of them we can
> look at point to point.
>
> >
> > Give us that data and we should have you a box cooked. We will need
> > TNC's so that it can talk to them.
> >
> > * I will see if there is a way to get one to you, but there might be a
> > slim
> > chance, but if you have a kpc-3PLUS, that's what would be used.
>
> No, would like to because there is a lot of questions about them, but do
> not have one.
>
> >
> > ** NO RUSH ON THIS AT THIS TIME, just trying to get things preped
> > for installation when the new tower is completed in Bartow.
> >
>
> I really would like to get it done so you can get it set up. Once we have
> the software on it, really if you can put it somewhere on the net Charlie
> can get in and do what needs to be done, you just need to be able to
> check the LED's on the TNC and do any local labor needed, he does
> most of it remotely.
>
>
> --
> Chuck Hast
> To paraphrase my flight instructor;
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> out and having to identify your bits and pieces in the midst of torn
> and twisted metal."
>
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Chuck Hast
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"the only dumb question is the one you DID NOT ask resulting in my going
out and having to identify your bits and pieces in the midst of torn
and twisted metal."
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