[FADCA] BBS/Swtich Polk County/Bartow

Evans Mitchell kd4efm / afa2th fl [email protected]
Tue, 2 Mar 2004 00:40:10 -0500


Roger that, I will be waiting then...

EFM
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From: <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Monday, March 01, 2004 17:53
Subject: Re: Re: [FADCA] BBS/Swtich Polk County/Bartow


> Evans, it would not be likely that 9k6 would be possible on 220. The =
higher you can get the beams the better the links willl be.
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> I am the frequency coordinator. I will look at the vhf frequencies =
that are in the area (we have a 85 mile separation between devices on =
vhf on the same frequency unless there is an agreement between systems) =
and the links from you to your neighbors will need to be coordinated.
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> I will get back with you on the frequencies.
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> Russ
> N4KOX
> FADCA Database Manager and Frequency Coordinator
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> > From: "Evans Mitchell kd4efm / afa2th fl" <[email protected]>
> > Date: 2004/03/01 Mon AM 09:43:36 EST
> > To: <[email protected]>
> > Subject: Re: [FADCA] BBS/Swtich Polk County/Bartow
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> > Dear Bud,
> > We are both talking about the same contact, kq4kx. EXCEPT one little =
minor thing....
> > He and I are now talking about having it over at the "SNCP" 200' =
tower up around the 150 to 180 level.
> > We are on a task to find out what antennas we need to have installed =
on the tower at this time
> > and thou a dead line has not been set, I would imagine by our next =
monthly meeting
> > The DIRECTOR of COMMS wants to know all the "W's" on the 200 foot =
tower and for it to be a one time
> > tower crew jobie.......
> > My thoughts.... PACKET BBS SYSTEM SERVING THE CENTRAL REGION.....
> > Antennas: 1 Vhf Ringo, Omni, serving Polk County
> >                 One 220/440 beam pointing north to north east at 50'
> >                 One same beam antenna at the 60' pointing to the =
west
> >                 One 220 pointing to the south at the 55' level to =
shoot into Highlands County
> >                 (OR JUST ONE 220 ANTENNA OMNI TO DO IT ALL AT THE =
60')
> > Radios: 1 V and 1 220/440 High speed Radio (9600 to ?????)
> > HARD LINE: TBD donation would help thou....
> > Computer: Evans Will supply
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> > WHITE BOY INGANUATIE............. hummmmm
> > I guess that would be me??????
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> > I also need to take into consideration, some of the hams who do =
packet are much older then
> > I and to have something complicated to connect to will be a =
disadvantage more then help.
> > That is why I brought up the idea of using an FBB box and then =
everything else behind that
> > (GATEWAY) and then those who are the pros, can work through the =
GATEWAY and do
> > what ever.
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> > Back at you Bud.
> > BTW, need to figure out a Frequency for this switch/node/station.
> > WC4PEM is on 144.930 which is the local digipeater....
> > KD4EFM/BARTOW/POLK/ whatever we call it needs to be something... Any =
ideas?
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> > ----- Original Message -----=20
> > From: "bud thompson" <[email protected]>
> > To: <[email protected]>
> > Sent: Monday, March 01, 2004 05:50
> > Subject: [FADCA] BBS/Swtich Polk County/Bartow
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> > > Subject Changed...
> > > Chuck said:
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> > > "Evans,
> > > What do you want to install, a switch or a BBS?
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> > > With regards to the network the  layered network is a open
> > > network and in fact will pass other protocols through it with
> > > no problems. In fact the next major phase of the network is to
> > > move the switches to LINUX FPAC which will also give us other
> > > protocols to play with at the switch sites (IP, NetRom and I
> > > think a open version of Flex) I am at this moment working on
> > > getting a machine set up to play with so I can learn how to
> > > install all of the bits and pieces that are needed to make a
> > > LINUX switch do it's magic."
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> > > Evans said:
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> > > "Hey Chuck, Prefer a BBS for NTS, but I like your Linux thought =
99% over
> > > anything else.
> > > as far as frequency, we have a dedicated local KPC node / digi in =
Bartow and
> > > use it
> > > as nothing more then a digipeater (un via cq, wc4pem) and just =
keyboard
> > > through it.
> > > I would like to take one of those KPC's and put TheNET in it since =
I deal
> > > with one myself for AFMARS.
> > > You tell me what would be best. I can bring the PC to you or you =
can come
> > > over to Polk in two weeks to
> > > my ARES meeting and get it then, (meeting is in Bartow) either =
way, let me
> > > know......"
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> > > Now bud's turn!
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> > > Evans- Sorry I didn't get back to you sooner - Sunday was a zoo =
around here
> > > (we have a new dog with three cats who say they were here first!)
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> > > At Hamcation we discussed the need for an FPAC switch/LAN at =
Bartow - once
> > > in place that should link to the new Clermont Switch and to Tampa =
thus
> > > giving us a cross state link from Tampa to Orlando/Melbourne/DAB.  =
Gary has
> > > a contact in Polk County for this purpose (I think the site is =
on/near the
> > > airport.)  What I suggest is that you consider managing the =
network FPAC
> > > switch at Bartow.  You've obviously got the packet and computer =
experience -
> > > all it takes after that is some hardware and a site!
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> > > Gary and Chuck can give you a lot of help early on and we've =
already
> > > discussed having a FADCA meeting on a weekend in Bartow to help =
with
> > > installation!  Several of us can come over and provide manual =
labor as well
> > > as packet and FPAC experience to get it going if necessary.
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> > > I understand Gary has recently started a new job, so I'm not sure =
how much
> > > time he may have right now - but between the rest of us here on =
the FADCA
> > > e-mail reflector, I'll bet we can get you going pretty quickly =
with more
> > > advice than you'll need!  Maybe Gary can find time to get the =
contact made
> > > and you can take over from there.
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> > > I suggest you get first with Gary to be able to meet the ham =
contact there
> > > who might get us a site on the Bartow airport.  Also, if you have =
a better
> > > site to link between Tampa and Clermont that should be considered. =
 Clermont
> > > is an extremely elevated site (500+ft msl), and I believe the =
Tampa target
> > > is on a 19+story building.
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> > > If you get a DOS FPAC running between Clermont and Tampa that =
would get the
> > > link made and as soon as Chuck beats the LINUX version, many of us =
will just
> > > move to that platform, probably using the same OLD SLOW computers! =
 The
> > > radio hardware is all the same.
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> > > TheNet and other X-1J type nodes do not mix well with FPAC.  We =
have to use
> > > one now to get between Orlando and Melbourne and will be dumping =
it as soon
> > > as the Orlando Switch is moved.  We also have another one in the =
way
> > > (needed) in the JAX area which will be by-passed as soon as =
another FPAC is
> > > installed in that area.  I recommend you spend your efforts on =
FPAC - but
> > > you'll need three TNCs, and three radios in addition to the =
computer.
> > > You'll need a 2M LAN radio, and likely two UHF radios for the =
trunks.  What
> > > would be neat would be for your locals (AREC?/ Radio club?) to =
help out with
> > > expenses - but all this need not be expensive.
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> > > I've been promoting the re-furbishing of the Layered Network for =
five years
> > > and now a switch between Clermont and Tampa is  now the highest =
priority!
> > > The cross-state link across Central Florida has been slow coming - =
but we
> > > are almost there.  The X1-J test at Clermont should be full FPAC =
before the
> > > end of this month, perhaps even within the next two weeks
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> > > Go for it!
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> > > Help is as close as this e-mail reflector.
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> > > 73,
> > > bud N0IA
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> > > ----- Original Message -----=20
> > > From: <[email protected]>
> > > To: <[email protected]>
> > > Sent: Monday, March 01, 2004 00:54
> > > Subject: RE: [FADCA] Re: Fw: NTS
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> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: Evans Mitchell kd4efm / afa2th fl =
[mailto:[email protected]]
> > > > > Sent: Sunday, 29 February, 2004 07:50
> > > > > To: [email protected]
> > > > > Cc: bud thompson
> > > > > Subject: Re: [FADCA] Re: Fw: NTS
> > > > >
> > > > > Hey Bud,
> > > > > I have a spare machine down here in Polk County and would like =
to get
> > > your
> > > > > help
> > > > > or help from Chuck / Gary on getting a "BBS" / NODE / wide =
area network
> > > > > setup.
> > > > > I have talked to Joe (ke4wdp) and he says there is this =
network called
> > > > > INI???
> > > > > which is an open network, which is something we all would like =
to have
> > > > > since
> > > > > we are going to have a local node, and a SEDAN node in the =
county.
> > > > > Your help would be greatly appreciated.
> > > > >
> > > > > Evans F. Mitchell
> > > > > KD4EFM / AFA2TH
> > > > > Polk County EC
> > > > > Polk ARES Group
> > > > > Polk County Florida
> > > > > Nextel: 161-174484-2
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > Evans,
> > > > What do you want to install, a switch or a BBS?
> > > >
> > > > With regards to the network the  layered network is a open
> > > > network and in fact will pass other protocols through it with
> > > > no problems. In fact the next major phase of the network is to
> > > > move the switches to LINUX FPAC which will also give us other
> > > > protocols to play with at the switch sites (IP, NetRom and I
> > > > think a open version of Flex) I am at this moment working on
> > > > getting a machine set up to play with so I can learn how to
> > > > install all of the bits and pieces that are needed to make a
> > > > LINUX switch do it's magic.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Chuck Hast
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> > > > "the only dumb question is the one you DID NOT ask resulting in =
my going
> > > > out and having to identify your bits and pieces in the midst of =
torn
> > > > and twisted metal."
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