[FADCA] NTS/ARES/RACES - Layered Network Growing - Now Let's Use It
bud thompson
[email protected]
Sat, 14 Feb 2004 05:47:00 -0500
For general packet use I recommend WinPack as a good starter package. Like
any program it takes a while to learn how to use it.. It has a lot of
features including being able to autoforward using compression with another
BBS once messages are prepared off line- a good feature for tactical
stations to use with a HUB BBS. The program is free and runs in Windows.
You can download the program at
http://www.btinternet.com/~g4fip/
For general packet use I can't recommend any free shareware program any
higher and many programs you have to purchase will only work with one
MYCALL - so have limited use in an emergency.
Don't forget that about the time you get all your folks well trained using
packet programs that eventually we will likely move to simply using Outlook
Express or some other commonly used e-mail client. That will make the
learning process all but go away as most folks have had experience using
e-mail. The program /system that will be used may be checked out at
http://www.winlink.org/Client.htm
The WL2K system of Ham Radio-to-E-mail will likely be the major system used
for Digital Messaging in Support of EMCOMMs in the future.
Good Luck.
bud N0IA
----- Original Message -----
From: <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Friday, February 13, 2004 23:51
Subject: Re: [FADCA] NTS/ARES/RACES - Layered Network Growing - Now Let's
Use It
> THANKS, THANKS, THANKS
>
> A LONG TIME AGO I OBTAINED A COPY OF ARESPACK WHICH MUST HAVE BEEN
> INCOMPLETE AS IT SEEMED TO NEED TO BE ATTACHED TO ANOTHER PROGRAM FOR
> ADDRESSING, ETC. I WILL DOWNLOAD FROM THE SOURCES YOU LISTED. YOUR
> OFFER TO HELP IS CERTAINLY APPRECIATED AND WILL BE USED.
> I LIKED WHAT I SAW OF ARESPACK. IT MAY BE THE ANSWER FOR LEE OPERATIONS
> IN SHELTERS.
>
> I HOPE TO USE THE HUB SYSTEM WITH THE TERMINAL IN THE EOC THE SAME AS THE
> ONES IN THE FIELD. THIS WILL MAKE TRAINING EASIER AND ELIMINATE THE
> POSSIBILITY OF SOMEONE CAUSING THE ENTIRE SYSTEM TO FAIL. THIS WILL
> LEAVE THE BBS/NODE IN PLACE TO BE UTILIZED IN THEIR TRADITIONAL WAYS.
> MESSAGES AND FORMS CAN BE DIRECTED TO EITHER EOC OR RED CROSS AS THEY RUN
> THE SHELTERS.
>
> HOPE YOU HAVE A GREAT TIME IN ORLANDO. I WILL MISS IT THIS YEAR. WELL,
> MAYBE NEXT YEAR!
>
> CAN A TELNET SETUP BE PARTTIME? WHERE THE PHONE LINE HAS A PRIMARY USER
> AND THE PACKET NODE/BBS IS SECONDARY? I MIGHT BE ABLE TO GET THAT
> APPROVED. AT LEAST, I HOPE SO.
>
> THANKS AGAIN.
>
> 73, TOM, KF4UTH
>
> On Fri, 13 Feb 2004 21:55:35 -0500 <[email protected]> writes:
> > I use and recommend a program call ARESPACK. It is a DOS program that
> > I have
> > run on everything from a DOS laptop of 296 vintage to a laptop with
> > XP
> > Professional. I run it in my car while the laptop is running a
> > program that
> > operates a Verizon data card as well as a mapping program at the
> > same time.
> > So it will operate in a window on the screen or diminished to the
> > task bar.
> >
> > It supports forms you can make and save that automatically count the
> > forms,
> > put in dates and times if you want them to, and it can support file
> > transfers, capturing a transmission and, when used with a printer,
> > can
> > operate in a network of other computers with the same program to
> > check if
> > the other station's printer is on, start the other station's
> > printer, and
> > determine if the other station is operating.
> >
> > If you use the program ARESdata, it contains a help file for use
> > with
> > ARESdata.
> >
> > The ARESdata in DOS and supports a packet network like a server and
> > runs on
> > a 386 or higher machine. We used com1 and com2 for two different
> > frequencies
> > so you can put the station on a link to the network and operate in a
> > local
> > LAN at the same time. ARESdata supports a conference bridge, has a
> > four
> > field database with a comment field for each record, handles up to
> > 10,000
> > records, produces reports, and has a search function for each of the
> > 4 data
> > fields. The data field length is set by the sysop, the name of the
> > fields is
> > set by the sysop. It supports transmission of messages to all
> > connected
> > stations at one time and individual stations and the sysop can send
> > messages
> > to an individual station connected to the server.
> >
> > Here are links to both programs and they are free.
> >
> > http://www.nmt.edu/sar/Software/arespack.doc
> >
> > http://varpa.bc.ca/files/ARESPACK/
> >
> > some application sites for ARESDATA
> > http://www.tcares.org/aresdata.pdf
> >
> > http://users.erols.com/sagers/aresdata.html
> >
> > and the ARESdata program is available from TAPR at
> > http://www.tapr.org/tapr/html/softf.html
> > for download in a zipped file from their ftp library.
> >
> > If you have questions about either program, let me know. We use it
> > every
> > week in an ARES packet net in Clay County and, as I said above, I
> > run
> > ARESPack in the car for my terminal program.
> >
> > Russ
> > ARES Assistant EC, Clay County
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: <[email protected]>
> > To: <[email protected]>
> > Sent: Friday, February 13, 2004 12:52 PM
> > Subject: Re: [FADCA] NTS/ARES/RACES - Layered Network Growing - Now
> > Let's
> > Use It
> >
> >
> > > HI,
> > >
> > > WHAT SOFTWARE HAVE THE LOCAL EOC'S FOUND BEST TO USE FOR THE
> > REMOTE
> > > SHELTERS? I AM LOOKING FOR THE SOFTWARE TO PUT INTO THE LEE
> > COUNTY
> > > SHELTERS. IT MUST BE SIMPLE (TO USE AND TO INSTRUCT) AND BE ABLE
> > TO
> > > UTILIZE FORMS IN ADDITION TO SIMPLE MESSAGING.
> > >
> > > WE ARE GOING TO USE THE HUB SYSTEM.
> > >
> > > THE EOC SHOULD BE ON A UNIT LIKE THE SHELTERS TO PREVENT ANY
> > 'ACCIDENTS'
> > > TO THE BBS/NODE. THUS THE NODE WILL FUNCTION TO ALLOW ACCESS TO
> > THE EOC,
> > > WHILE THE BBS WILL BE AVAILABLE FOR LEAVING NONCRITICAL MESSAGES
> > AND
> > > WHILE THE NODE IS BUSY WITH LOGISTIC FORMS.
> > >
> > > THIS IS THE PLAN AT THE MOMENT, SUBJECT TO CHANGE. ISN'T
> > EVERYTHING?
> > >
> > > THANKS FOR ANY HELP IN FINDING A SUITABLE SOFTWARE.
> > >
> > > 73,
> > > TOM, KF4UTH
> > >
> > > On Sun, 8 Feb 2004 18:32:13 -0500 "bud thompson" <[email protected]>
> > > writes:
> > > > Deltona
> > > > Sunday February 8 1815E
> > > >
> > > > Thanks, John...
> > > >
> > > > Because we are (likely) headed to an entirely new/different
> > > > (hopefully
> > > > better!), more modern scheme in the next year or so, I don't
> > > > recommend we
> > > > set up individual BBSs at each shelter/tactical location. If a
> > > > store-and-forward BBS is utilized, the time spent now will be
> > more
> > > > efficient
> > > > if the BBS is a more central HUB-type of scheme. It will be
> > easier
> > > > to
> > > > interface the new scheme when it becomes available.
> > > >
> > > > Of course this depends on local preferences, experience, and to
> > a
> > > > degree
> > > > foresight.
> > > >
> > > > In Seminole and Volusia Counties we have not (yet) been able to
> > have
> > > > radios/tncs/computers set up permanently at shelters/tactical
> > sites,
> > > > only
> > > > antennas and feed lines. Each exercise may bring a different
> > ham
> > > > radio
> > > > operator to the shelter, with his gear, including TNC/computer,
> > etc.
> > > > What I
> > > > have been proposing for the near term is a Central BBS/HUB for
> > each
> > > > county
> > > > (LAN) and that the shelter/tactical digital stations run
> > firmware
> > > > PBBS in
> > > > the TNCs or PBBS in a software program such as Winpac. (Sort of
> > > > provides
> > > > what you indicated, with a central FBB-compatible BBS with
> > routing
> > > > in
> > > > charge!)
> > > >
> > > > I no longer promote the use of NTS messaging for EMCOMMs, but
> > until
> > > > we get
> > > > something like Paclink working universally (i.e. free-formatted
> > > > e-mail
> > > > messaging), we'll likely have to at least support NTS messaging
> > > > /routing on
> > > > the digital network.
> > > >
> > > > At that.. there is much more to all this politically! Of course
> > you
> > > > knew
> > > > that! Har.
> > > >
> > > > bud N0IA
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "j daughtry" <[email protected]>
> > > > To: <[email protected]>
> > > > Sent: Sunday, February 08, 2004 13:37
> > > > Subject: Re: [FADCA] NTS/ARES/RACES - Layered Network Growing -
> > Now
> > > > Let's
> > > > Use It
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > my 2 cents worth
> > > > > we at one time in Sumter county had a bbs set up in each
> > > > shelter on
> > > > old
> > > > > 386 computers [remember those] and ran doss based msys for
> > the
> > > > > reliability of the system also had the shelter bbs to
> > forward
> > > > to the
> > > > EOC
> > > > > and the other bbs shelters as needed I takes a lot of work to
> > get
> > > > forward
> > > > > files set to work .
> > > > > I agree with Bill in a emergency the nts format isn't
> > needed
> > > > as long
> > > > as
> > > > > it will stay in the local shelter lan just the proper
> > addressing
> > > > is
> > > > used
> > > > > , some of the emergencies I have worked we would still be
> > trying
> > > > to send
> > > > > to the eoc if we had been trying to format nts style .
> > > > > Another thing to think about in a shelter you need a
> > > > control
> > > > > operator so why not put the bbs at that shelter in there call
> > and
> > > > set
> > > > the
> > > > > forward files up NOW to show that , its easy to get some one
> > to
> > > > send
> > > > > simple style messages most anybody can type and set to
> > send.
> > > > > John
> > > >
> > > >
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