[FADCA] Protocol Warrior behavior:

[Chuck Hast]

On Thu, 30 Dec 2004 14:34:33 -0500, Dan Babilla <dbabilla at earthlink.net> wrote:
> All,
> 
> I think Chuck nailed it when he states:
> 
> > We need to try to be as blind as possible to "personal preferences" as
> > there
> > is no "universal protocol" as these guys would want us to think.
> 
> And:
> 
> > Also some tend to mix protocols, there are those that are link layer,
> > ax25, either-
> > net, 802.11 for higher speed links are some examples, PacTor, Amtor, and
> > the
> > other HF link layer protocols are some that come to mind
> > The there are network layer, X.25,ROSE/FPAC as a family are one, IP as a
> > family is another, NetRom and it's derivatives are another.
> 
> If we build a network to pass traffic across the state it needs to be
> capable of supporting as many protocols as
> possible. Including "keyboard chatting". Using Linux and layered protocols
> is the only way to go.
> 
> Yes BUD, there are still HAMs that like to connect and chat keyboard to
> keyboard......at least that is the main complaint I've over heard at
> hamfests and club meeting about FADCA.....is that the Florida layered
> network does not support AX.25 connects with keyboard to keyboard, just
> e-mail........true or not, that is what is perceived.

This is pure SEDAN FUD. Indeed we have encouraged keyboard to keyboarding,
that was what the links up to TX and OK were all about we had some real long
winded keyboarding going on back then. The whole idea of using ROSE/FPAC
was to get the monkey of probing through the network to a access point
off of the
users back and on the network where it should be, but at the same time FPAC
brought that ability back in for those who wanted to do it. (ROSE never had a
NODE app in the TNC to connect to, you had to do the connection to the user on
the far end, for the keyboarder who was not interested in node hopping this was
keyboard heaven, but for the node hopper it was no-node hell.) Now Linux will
give us all of them that we want to turn on, and the ability to add others as we
see fit, or even invent, nothing says we do not have to cook up our own, the NR
guys did it, the Flex guys did it, and indeed FPAC is son of ROSE which was
born of COSI which was son of GATORNET which was born right here in FL years
ago, ( I think that was what it was called) anyhow Howie and the RATS guys
started it and Tom Moulton picked it up and carried it on, then the French guys
ported ROSE to DOS and now we have Linux with it's wonderful chameleon
ability to run so many protocols (apple talk anyone?, or say how about IPX??)

The trick is to mix and mingle these things, sort of like making cat
fish stew, for
about 5 hours it is best to leave the house while it cooks but on the
6th hour the
stench changes to a wonderful smell, it is not far from ready when that happens.
There will be a lot of stink and mess, but in the end we can have some real fun
with this stuff and end up with something that all of us can enjoy. 

> 
> GO Linux network!!!!!!!
>
Yes!!! 


-- 
Chuck Hast 
To paraphrase my flight instructor;
"the only dumb question is the one you DID NOT ask resulting in my going
out and having to identify your bits and pieces in the midst of torn
and twisted metal."