[FADCA] Re: Fw: <No Subject>

Thu, 13 Feb 2003 21:48:25 +0000

At 11:48 AM 2/12/2003 -0500, Billy Williams wrote:
>Thanks Russ for the demo.  Each emergency situation is different and the more
>tools that we have, the better.
>
>For transferring large volumes of info quickly in a situation where
>the "infrastructure" is largely in tact--TelPac seems like a great way to go
>
>I can see problems if the telephone system and/or Internet become 
>overloaded.
>While SEDAN and other packets modes may be slower, they seem to rely less on
>the "infrastructure."
>
>Thanks to all who have contributed their time and talents to develop this
>option which could be of assistance in a communications emergency.  Served
>agencies should consider the benefits this system has to offer along with 
>other
>systems that might provide an alternative in case of severe infrastructure
>damage.
>
>73,
>
>Billy Williams, N4UF
>District Emergency Coordinator, Crown ARES

Hi Billy and all.

What the main use of this system in a disaster is for  what is called the 
"last mile". This being said, if you are in a area that has major damage, 
we will need to RELY on radio. This is what packet is all about. Once into 
a UN infected area, the best thing is to get the messages delivered as 
quick as possible. We do have as large packet MESSAGE system in place here 
in Florida that we can use also. I would like to invite you to check out 
the FADCA web page at www.fadca.org to see what we are doing with packet in 
Florida. We also have a list you can join if would like.

Since you mentioned SEDAN, it is good for small short messages and that is 
about it. You will NOT be able to send a shelter list of 100 people over it 
at one time so that about says it all about it. It is set up on what we 
call a flat network. If about a dozen people get in there on just a few 
nodes several nodes apart and start to send traffic, you will see that it 
just can't handle the usage. Try it some time if you are in a sedan area 
and see what happens. Pick a node about 5 hops away and get several other 
people on several other nodes and try to get to the same node and use a 
mailbox at that node and all of you try and send even just a SHORT message 
to it at the same time and see what happens...

73, Bill N4XEO

>Quoting [email protected]:
>
> > Good evening everyone.
> >
> > This message (below) was sent using TelPac, a Telnet to Packet interface
> > that was developed as part of the World Wide WinLink2000 system that
> > supports digital communication from and to mobile digital stations.
> >
> > It was sent by Packet Radio to the Telnet Station at KN6KB and back to me
> > via the internet. I have copied exactly was was received by my email
> > client.
> > This message was sent only minutes before it was received in my email.
> >
> > It demonstrates the capability of the Florida Layered Packet Network from
> > Jacksonville to Orlando and the use of TelPac to send a message from an
> > AX.25 Packet station to an ANY email address using TelPac.
> >
> > This message, while short and simple, provides documentation that the
> > concept of using packet radio, the Florida Layered Network, and TelPac as a
> > means of sending messages during a communications emergency from the LAST
> > Mile (where wire line communications are disrupted by a disaster or other
> > interruption of commercial communications) with the resources of Amateur
> > Radio and the Internet is a viable method of Amateur Radio support of
> > Emergency Response Agencies.
> >
> > This application of Packet Radio is the most capable method of sending
> > digital messages AND attached Files that exists in Florida. It far
> > surpasses
> > the capability of any other method now being promoted.  This method allows
> > radio support from the site of a disaster to the first available internet
> > connection and does not require keyboard to keyboard communications. It
> > supports sending files needed by Emergency Management, such as Situation
> > Reports as required by the Department of Emergency Management.
> >
> > If you have questions regarding this innovative application of Amateur
> > Packet Radio and the internet, I refer you to Bud Thompson, N0IA, at
> > [email protected] and Rick Muething, KN6KB at [email protected] or simply
> > use "reply to all" from your email client.
> >
> > Thanks to KN6KB, KF4SIR, N0IA and all the other dedicated Amateur Radio
> > Operators that have made this possible.
> >
> > 73 Russ Oder
> > N4KOX
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > Wrom: DADRZFSQHYUCDDJBLVL
> > To: <[email protected]>
> > Sent: Tuesday, February 11, 2003 11:55 PM
> > Subject: <No Subject>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > This Message via TelPac
> > This message is being sent from packet to the internet using KF4SIR-2
> > TelPac
> > station to KN6KB vis a Telnet Connection. The message is sent by packet to
> > KF4SIR as AX.25 packet and then by the internet to KN6KB where it is
> > entered
> > as a message. It is then sent to the recepient as an email message.
> > 73 and thanks for the test, Rick.
> > Russ, N4KOX 02/11/03.
> >
> >
>
>
>
>
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