[ETS/PARC List] Using "Zoom"
Chris Demers
CDemers at cjd77.com
Fri Mar 27 03:43:17 EDT 2020
According to https://zoom.us/pricing it looks like the cost of a "Business" plan is $19.99/month/host (minimum of 10 hosts) for a total of $200/month. If we don't need more than 100 participants it seems like we could do a "Pro" plan for $14.99/month/host (only 1 host required, it seems). A "Free" plan could also work, but there is a meeting time limit of 40 minutes.
My company uses RingCenteral https://www.ringcentral.com/office/features/video-conference/overview.html for our telecommunications. We can now host meetings of up to 100 people with no additional cost. RingCenteral was using the Zoom backend, though it looks like it requires their own app for the front end (Mac, Window, iOS & Google Play). I can offer to initiate a meeting if we want to try teleconferencing but don't want to pay for Zoom yet and want more than 40 minutes. I haven’t done this recently, so I can't vouch for the ease of use.
I'm not a big, "talk on the radio", guy myself, being an introvert. I'm more interested in the technology than in using the technology to talk to other people. I haven't used my radios in months. However, it will be interesting if an amateur radio club with three repeaters turns to the internet to communicate rather than using a repeater. There may be excellent reasons to do just that. I hate malicious interference. I don't engage, but it makes me angry. I'm perhaps not in a strong position to advocate for using the repeater, but I wonder if anyone will advocate for using the repeater.
Chris Demers
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From: etslist-bounces at mailman.qth.net <etslist-bounces at mailman.qth.net> On Behalf Of Pete Fierro
Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2020 5:12 PM
To: Chris Fine <crfine at aol.com>
Cc: ETSNJ <etslist at mailman.qth.net>
Subject: Re: [ETS/PARC List] Using "Zoom"
Chris
Spot on!We can make this work
On Thu, Mar 26, 2020, 12:47 Chris Fine <crfine at aol.com> wrote:
> Maybe the club could sign up for the business account - it wouldn’t
> make much of a dent in the treasury and we could discontinue it
> eventually if it ends up not being used over time.
>
> Once we had a club Zoom, there are some interesting things we might do
> with it:
> - In the short run, of course, use it in lieu of physical meetings,
> until we can get back together
> - Broadcast meetings to members who can’t attend - either real-time or
> later
> - Record or broadcast some of our tech sessions at the repeater, or
> other interesting things we do (putting up a tower, etc.)
> - Maybe some “E-Elmering” to help out new (or not so new) members with
> equipment problems, license prep, etc.
> - Unscheduled or emergency meetings, either whole membership or
> officers, as warranted
>
> etc.
>
> Zoom is great for stuff like the above where you’d like to reach some
> or all of the membership, but you don’t want things to be completely
> public (i.e., you wouldn’t post it on YouTube necessarily). It’s also
> good because (unlike some other conferencing systems) there’s easy
> access for audio-only devices (landline phones, or while driving) as
> well as audio/video. It also has great screen-sharing, for that next
> presentation at a meeting. And it works on cellular as well as
> Internet, so you can access it pretty much from anywhere you can get a good cell signal.
>
> If there’s an account to use, a message could go out before tomorrow’s
> meeting.
>
> Just some thoughts… one person’s view so usual disclaimers apply… best
> to all.
>
> 73,
> Chris
> KC2PI
>
>
> > On Mar 26, 2020, at 8:38 AM, Pete Fierro <mrpjf150 at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Bill I think that's the concern some of us have,jamming
> >
> > On Thu, Mar 26, 2020, 08:31 William Russell <wruss70 at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> I think it would be good to use Zoom. We are using at our business
> >> with customer committees to do construction print approvals. I do
> >> believe
> there
> >> is a small fee if you get a version that allows more than 10 people
> >> in
> the
> >> meeting and go longer than 50 or 60 minutes.
> >>
> >> I know there was a comment about possible jamming with a on air meeting.
> >> A Zoom meeting would eliminate that.
> >>
> >> Bill Russell K2WLR.
> >>
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> >>
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> >> *From:* etslist-bounces at mailman.qth.net <
> etslist-bounces at mailman.qth.net>
> >> on behalf of Pete Fierro <mrpjf150 at gmail.com>
> >> *Sent:* Thursday, March 26, 2020 7:41:34 AM
> >> *To:* Larry Makoski <w2ljqrp at gmail.com>
> >> *Cc:* ETSNJ <etslist at mailman.qth.net>
> >> *Subject:* Re: [ETS/PARC List] Using "Zoom"
> >>
> >> Should we try it this Friday night?Thoughts?
> >>
> >> On Thu, Mar 26, 2020, 07:34 Larry Makoski <w2ljqrp at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>> We used it last night for the SPARC meeting. It worked quite well.
> >>>
> >>> Larry W2LJ
> >>>
> >>> On Thu, Mar 26, 2020 at 6:29 AM Chris Fine via ETSList <
> >>> etslist at mailman.qth.net> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Great idea Pete - I can endorse Zoom as well. It’s easy to
> >>>> install and works well. If we are still isolated in April it’s
> >>>> worth trying. We
> >>> could
> >>>> use the repeater as a backup tech support channel to help anyone
> >>>> who
> >> has
> >>>> difficulty getting on Zoom.
> >>>>
> >>>> As Pete says, Zoom works on smartphones, but it also works on
> >> computers,
> >>>> tablets and even landline phones (although on a landline you only
> >>>> get audio).
> >>>>
> >>>> In the longer run, maybe we could use Zoom to make the meeting
> >> available
> >>>> to members who can’t attend. That’s another use for it.
> >>>>
> >>>> Best to all and 73,
> >>>> Chris
> >>>>
> >>>>> On Mar 25, 2020, at 8:53 PM, Pete Fierro <mrpjf150 at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Hi Guys/Gals
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Since meetings are pretty much out of the question,we could try
> >>>>> the
> >>> app
> >>>>> called "Zoom."This app is free&is also available online.You can
> >>>>> see
> >>> each
> >>>>> other&interact with each other at the same time.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Its been demonstrated to me&it works great!
> >>>>>
> >>>>> If you want to participate by phone, download the Zoom app from
> >> either
> >>>> the
> >>>>> App Store (Apple) or The Play Store (Android). The app is free.
> >>>>> It
> >>> has
> >>>> a
> >>>>> blue icon with a white camera inside. At the time of the
> >>>>> meeting
> >>> someone
> >>>>> has to send an email out with an invite simply click on the link
> >>>>> from
> >>> the
> >>>>> email and you will be brought to the meeting. Your phone will
> >>>>> open
> >> the
> >>>> app
> >>>>> automatically if you click on the link in an email. You may
> >>>>> have to
> >>> give
> >>>>> permission for Zoom to access your camera and mike once the app
> >>>>> is
> >>> open.
> >>>>> Do that and you will be able to join.In the email, the link is
> >>>>> found
> >>>> below
> >>>>> the words "Join Zoom Meeting." You will be able to see you and
> >>>>> hear
> >>> you
> >>>>> through your phone's camera and mike.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> If you want to join from your laptop, you simply click on the
> >>>>> link
> >>> in
> >>>>> an email.An should take you right to the meeting. Your laptop's
> >> webcam
> >>>> and
> >>>>> microphone will allow you to participate. Again, the link is
> >>>>> found
> >>> below
> >>>>> the words Join Zoom Meeting. Simply click those words.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I would imagine from a tablet the same procedure applies.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I think this would work out very well.There are you tube vids
> >>>>> out
> >>> that
> >>>>> should clarify any doubts
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Pete
> >>>>> KD2ARB
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