[Elecraft] Legal Limit With FT8

[Wes]

I figured I'd get somebody riled up.  I will give you that a modicum of skill is 
useful in frequency selection.  However, when DXing, the DX station sets the 
sequence, you don't get to pick it.  So the best you can do is to not transmit 
once in a while so you can see the competing callers (if skip allows it). You 
can easily have propagation where you don't hear any of the other callers, so 
that "skill" is really "chance". With F/H I even lose the right to set my TX 
frequency.  On more than one occasion I've had the fox copy me, move me to his 
frequency only to NOT copy me again.  Then I start over.

Forgive me for not understanding tail ending on a mode where the protocol sets 
the timing.

Contrast to traditional RTTY.  What's common, a machine encodes and decodes the 
message.  Otherwise, on RTTY I determine the message content, when to call, 
where to call and I have control of RX QRM fighting features and can run 
multiple decoders.

Just to keep this somewhat Elecraft related I will say that even though I've 
moved to a Kenwood TS-890 for a number of reasons, my K3 and K3S are the better 
RTTY radios.

Wes  N7WS

  On 11/11/2021 5:03 PM, Andy Durbin wrote:
> "I have DXCC on RTTY and refuse to add FT QSOs to my total.  They are different things.  RTTY requires some skill."
>
> You seem to imply that FT modes require no skill.  I disagree.  There are complete LIDS using the modes and there are others who carefully pick TX frequencies to avoid QRM to a QSO in progress and time their transmissions to effectively tail-end without causing QRM.
>
> There are LIDS who work DX and then call CQ on the DX frequency.  Noone with any understanding of the mode would do that.  FT8 is not blast and log.  It does require some thought and it's obvious some on the bands didn't give it any.
>
> FT mode skill is not the same as CQ or RTTY skill but to deny there is a skill to effectively using FT modes is, at best, short sighted.
>
> 73,
> Andy, k3wyc
>
>
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