[Elecraft] K3S poor CW keying further investigation
Bob McGraw K4TAX
rmcgraw at blomand.net
Sat Apr 25 11:59:48 EDT 2020
I took off the original connectors and replaced them with suitable #10
bolts, nuts, insulating washers and flat washers. The point, if the
supply doesn't have the connectors you need, then don't buy it! We
are hams and hams have always made things work they way needed and as
they should for the purpose.
73
Bob, K4TAX.
On 4/25/2020 10:12 AM, Ron Manfredi wrote:
> Fewer power supplies (meaning the switching type) have actual terminal
> bolts to use with ring connectors. If the supply doesn't have that
> type of connector, then what alternatives are there to being able to
> use one supply in a station that has more than one high current rig,
> (even if they are not used at the same time) since the connectors on
> most of these supplies will take at most only one 10-12 gauge cable?
>
> Ron WA2EIO
>
>
> On 4/25/2020 10:56 AM, Bob McGraw K4TAX wrote:
>> Jim et al:
>>
>> Thank you for confirming exactly what I've written and suggested.
>>
>> TO ALL........PLEASE do not use power strips to supply DC to your
>> radio from your power supply. ALWAYS connect the radio direct to
>> the power supply terminals. The power pole and DC distributions
>> strips are ok for LED lightning and such but NEVER for anything
>> drawing over about 2 amps. I don't care what the manufacturer says
>> they are "rated" for. E = I x R. Every connections adds
>> resistance. Do the math.
>>
>> 73
>>
>> Bob, K4TAX
>>
>> On 4/25/2020 9:32 AM, Jim Rhodes wrote:
>>> I had been using a power pole strip to power everything. After
>>> seeing some discussion on this topic some time ago I found that in
>>> the string of 3 power pole connections in my setup at the time I was
>>> seeing around a 1 volt drop in the voltage on the K3 metering
>>> between receive and 100 watts keydown. That voltage drop was
>>> confirmed by my VOM so I wired the rig directly to the supply and
>>> the voltage drop was less than 0.25 volts. That is the way my rigs
>>> and VHF/UHF amps will be connected from now on with only a fuse
>>> inline. The low current stuff will stay on the power pole strip
>>> where they do just fine lighting up lights and stuff.
>>>
>>> On Sat, Apr 25, 2020, 09:16 Don Schroder <donanddeena at hotmail.com
>>> <mailto:donanddeena at hotmail.com>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Bob,
>>>
>>> Is it safe to run my K2 using Anderson Power Pole connections,
>>> and/or RigRunner equipment?
>>>
>>> For my info, what is the reason for NOT using them?
>>>
>>> I’m rewiring, and I want to do it right!
>>>
>>> Gunny, KE0PVQ
>>>
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>>> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3S poor CW keying further investigation
>>>
>>> Nuts, just measure the drop between radio and power supply see if
>>> it is reasonable. Mine is 0.25 volts when transmitting. I run
>>> 14.0 out of supply.
>>> Ray
>>> W8LYJ
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>
>>> > On Apr 25, 2020, at 07:48, Bob McGraw K4TAX <rmcgraw at blomand.net
>>> <mailto:rmcgraw at blomand.net>> wrote:
>>> >
>>> > As to the RigRunner power pole strip.........PUT IT IN THE
>>> TRASH where it belongs. NEVER NEVER NEVER use a power
>>> distribution strip to power a 100 watt radio. ALWAYS connect the
>>> radio direct to the power supply terminals. NO exceptions!
>>> >
>>> > 73
>>> >
>>> > Bob, K4TAX
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >> On 4/25/2020 7:13 AM, Chuck Chandler wrote:
>>> >> After more checking, I suspect the internal 100W amp is the
>>> common factor
>>> >> in the poor keying characteristics I'm seeing and hearing about
>>> from my
>>> >> rig. I am trying to determine if my power supply is doing it's
>>> job.
>>> >>
>>> >> I'm using a TenTec 963 switching supply rated at 25A
>>> continuous. At rest
>>> >> the K3S panel display shows 13.6V, with full power key down it
>>> dips to 11.5
>>> >> or so. This seems like a lot. I'm running the power cable
>>> thru a
>>> >> RigRunner Powerpole strip. If I can dig out another power
>>> supply from the
>>> >> packed boxes I can wire the K3S directly to the supply.
>>> >>
>>> >> Is 11.5V at key down enough to cause the slow rise time being
>>> reported?
>>> >>
>>> >> 73 de Chuck, WS1L
>>> >>
>>> >
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