[Elecraft] Elecraft Digest, Vol 153, Issue 16

Dana Shtun ve3dss at hotmail.com
Wed Jan 11 22:47:39 EST 2017


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Today's Topics:

  1. K-POD CABLE LENGTH (NOEL POULIN)
  2. KIO3B RTTY AFSK problem with Transmit (Dan)
  3. Re: KPA-500 Running hot on 20m (Edward R Cole)
  4. Re: KIO3B RTTY AFSK problem with Transmit (Don Wilhelm)
  5. Re: KIO3B RTTY AFSK problem with Transmit (Bill Frantz)
  6. FOR SALE: KX3 and PX3 (Mark Tellez)
  7. QRP/outdoors/SOTA/KX2 presentation at the Palm Springs
     hamfest, Feb. 4th (Wayne Burdick)
  8. NPOTA LOCATION (Nr4c)
  9. SDRplay and Win4K3 (Doug Ellmore)
 10. OT: a short presentation to a group of primary school
     children about radio (Johnny Siu)
 11. OT (sort of) -- went from WSJT-X vs 1.6 to vs 1.7 (have a
     KX3) and having problems... (James Rodenkirch)
 12. Tandem operation of KPA and ACOM 1500 (Jim Miller)
 13. Re: Tandem operation of KPA and ACOM 1500 (KV5J)
 14. KAT500 Utility problem (George Kidder)
 15. Re: KAT500 Utility problem (Harry Yingst)
 16. Re: KANT3A (HankP)
 17. Re: KANT3A (Jim Miller)
 18. Re: KANT3A (KV5J)
 19. Thanks to Elecraft support (Carl Yaffey1)
 20. Re: Thanks to Elecraft support (briancom)
 21. Re: KAT500 Utility problem (George Kidder)
 22. Re: KANT3A (Ron D'Eau Claire)
 23. Re: Tandem operation of KPA and ACOM 1500 (Rick Tavan)
 24. Age of K2? (ac5p at sbcglobal.net)
 25. Re: Age of K2? (Fred Jensen)
 26. Happy Dance (Stewart)
 27. Re: Happy Dance (Fred Jensen)
 28. Re: Age of K2? (Don Wilhelm)
 29. Re: Happy Dance (Jim Cox)


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Message: 1
Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2017 17:07:48 -0500
From: NOEL POULIN <ve2fww at globetrotter.net>
To: Elecraft at mailman.qth.net
Subject: [Elecraft] K-POD CABLE LENGTH
Message-ID: <71e0bbfe-868e-a834-9bed-ed6e15b01960 at globetrotter.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII; format=flowed

Hello Everyone,
I would like to know what is the maximum length of cable on a K-POD, we 
can use.
The reason is that I want to use it from another room in my house...of 
course the K3S is in one room, and sometimes I want to listen on the 
radio...remote...with Ham Radio Deluxe.....in another room.....and I 
would  like to be able to use my K-Pod ...

Thanks
Noel


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Message: 2
Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2017 17:16:16 -0500
From: "Dan" <w8car at bex.net>
To: <elecraft at mailman.qth.net>
Subject: [Elecraft] KIO3B RTTY AFSK problem with Transmit
Message-ID: <20F08424B9E54CB58ED45CF887679DD3 at TurdFerguson>
Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="iso-8859-1"

Did RU this past weekend and could not get KIO3B to XMIT-Receive is fine using MMTTY and N1MM. Ended up using my Signal Link for XMIT.
Here is what I know.
NO line in or out connections on back of radio (per earlier email I saw)
Radio control, frequency, etc. work fine-just updated firmware
USB Codec shows as USB Codec 3 on computer. I can see AFSK produced in transmit on MMTTY screen and the silly meter in the sound control window. but no audio reaches radio
DATA Mode is set for AFSK A (like I have always used it for SIgnal Link)
Even if I manually turn XMIT on no audio IN. (I am using VOX and not PTT) Do I need to enable PTT?

I have tried switching MIKE to LINE IN to no avail.

What am I missing? Any help here would be appreciated.
Dan W8CAR

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Message: 3
Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2017 13:19:46 -0900
From: Edward R Cole <kl7uw at acsalaska.net>
To: Elecraft Reflector <elecraft at mailman.qth.net>
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KPA-500 Running hot on 20m
Message-ID: <201701102219.v0AMJnUJ000866 at mail47c28.carrierzone.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed

OT: but I am going to add a couple cpu fans to the heat sink of my 
KXPA100 which will be installed under the backseat of my truck.  That 
will ensure a little more cooling.  The seat sets down on top of the 
fins so the fans will be positioned to feed from one end.  The 
enclosure will be drilled with multiple 3/4 inch holes for airflow.

I will only run SSB so that is low duty-cycle.  The internal overtemp 
protect will engage if it gets too hot.

73, Ed - KL7UW
  http://www.kl7uw.com
Dubus-NA Business mail:
  dubususa at gmail.com 



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Message: 4
Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2017 17:45:04 -0500
From: Don Wilhelm <donwilh at embarqmail.com>
To: Dan <w8car at bex.net>, elecraft at mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KIO3B RTTY AFSK problem with Transmit
Message-ID: <ac3b4d5b-84e4-ddad-3abf-4fd0d7765619 at embarqmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed

Dan,

It sounds like you are doing things right.
What is the Speaker slider on the computer set to?  Open the playback 
controls - normally set it to about 75%.  The "meter" in the computer 
soundcard display will not tell you the whole story.  Go to the Playback 
Controls to see the slider (Windows - Mac or Linux may be different).

Make sure there is nothing plugged into LINE IN (it overrides the Codec 
line in).  You may want to insert a plug into the LINE IN jack and 
quickly remove it just to make certain the contacts in the jack close 
properly.

You must set the MIC menu entry to LINE.

Set the audio level correctly (you can do that in TX TEST or connected 
to a dummy load so you do not transmit RF).  Tell your software 
application to "transmit", then adjust the "MIC" gain (actually LINE if 
you have set the menu correctly) until you have 4 bars solid with the 
5th bar flashing.

If you cannot achieve that audio level by manipulating to Speaker slider 
on the computer and the MIC Gain on the K3S, something is awry - contact 
K3support for additional assistance.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 1/10/2017 5:16 PM, Dan wrote:
> Did RU this past weekend and could not get KIO3B to XMIT-Receive is fine using MMTTY and N1MM. Ended up using my Signal Link for XMIT.
> Here is what I know.
> NO line in or out connections on back of radio (per earlier email I saw)
> Radio control, frequency, etc. work fine-just updated firmware
> USB Codec shows as USB Codec 3 on computer. I can see AFSK produced in transmit on MMTTY screen and the silly meter in the sound control window. but no audio reaches radio
> DATA Mode is set for AFSK A (like I have always used it for SIgnal Link)
> Even if I manually turn XMIT on no audio IN. (I am using VOX and not PTT) Do I need to enable PTT?
> 
> I have tried switching MIKE to LINE IN to no avail.
> 


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Message: 5
Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2017 14:50:11 -0800
From: Bill Frantz <frantz at pwpconsult.com>
To: Dan <w8car at bex.net>
Cc: elecraft at mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KIO3B RTTY AFSK problem with Transmit
Message-ID:
	<r470Ps-10122i-B8081AC966EB440DBA9B8460C84548C1 at Williams-MacBook-Pro.local>
	
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed

Use AFSK A mode for RTTY. DATR A can also be made to work, but 
my experience with AFSK A is much better. FSK D does not use the 
sound card for transmission.

Make sure your computer is producing enough output drive. On my 
Mac I need to go to System Preferences -> Sound and raise the 
output volume all the way.

Make sure your application is addressing the correct USB device. 
(Don't ask how I know.)

Input from the radio should work but might be low in volume. 
Some of us set Config: LIN OUT to about 40.

73 Bill AE6JV

On 1/10/17 at 2:16 PM, w8car at bex.net (Dan) wrote:

> Did RU this past weekend and could not get KIO3B to 
> XMIT-Receive is fine using MMTTY and N1MM. Ended up using my 
> Signal Link for XMIT.
> Here is what I know.
> NO line in or out connections on back of radio (per earlier email I saw)
> Radio control, frequency, etc. work fine-just updated firmware
> USB Codec shows as USB Codec 3 on computer. I can see AFSK 
> produced in transmit on MMTTY screen and the silly meter in the 
> sound control window. but no audio reaches radio
> DATA Mode is set for AFSK A (like I have always used it for SIgnal Link)
> Even if I manually turn XMIT on no audio IN. (I am using VOX and not PTT) Do I need to enable PTT?
> 
> I have tried switching MIKE to LINE IN to no avail.
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Message: 6
Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2017 17:11:55 -0600
From: Mark Tellez <aar6ea at gmail.com>
To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net
Subject: [Elecraft] FOR SALE: KX3 and PX3
Message-ID:
	<CALyK5YGNicifJrBxC65zTY1TDMEFT2A_4aO1N6hQ808WiG3e7w at mail.gmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8

Hello everyone.

It is with reluctance I have decided to sell my KX3 and PX3.

Both are in like-new condition and both were factory built.

I will sell them together or separately.

I have a 100% 500+ feedback on eBay as both a seller and a purchaser.

Here is what I am selling:

Included with KX3:

1)      Elecraft KX3 Transceiver (factory built)

2)      Built in KXAT3 antenna tuner

3)      Internal NiMH Charger for KX3

4)      KXFL3 Dual-Passband Roofing Filter

5)      MH3 Hand Microphone

6)      Side KX protective handles (see note below)

*7)      *PAE-Kx31 basic Elecraft? KX3 *heatsink*

8)      Kx33 *Low-RFI *AC Power Supply for HF Transcievers

9)      Nifty Accessories Desk Stands KX3

10)   Nifty Accessories Quick Reference guide

11)   Cables

12)   Fred Cady spiral bound (6x9) excellent reference book.

13)   Laminated reference material and manuals.

14)   Custom color coded cables for quick connect and disconnect

15)   MARS and high power SW modifications installed but removable.


Included with the PX3:


1) Elecraft PX3 Panadaptor (factory built)

2) Side KX protective handles (see note below)

3) Nifty Accessories Desk Stands PX3

4) Cables


Asking $1430 for the KX3 $550 for the PX3 or $1890 for both

Please contact me at AAR6EA at gmail.com if interested.


Thanks everyone.


Mark


*Note:* I will send the Lexan cover separately (a few weeks after the main
purchase.  I have the cover in storage and need to locate it.


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Message: 7
Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2017 17:12:54 -0800
From: Wayne Burdick <n6kr at elecraft.com>
To: Elecraft Reflector <elecraft at mailman.qth.net>,
	"KX3 at yahoogroups.com" <KX3 at yahoogroups.com>
Cc: QRP-L <qrp-l at mailman.qth.net>
Subject: [Elecraft] QRP/outdoors/SOTA/KX2 presentation at the Palm
	Springs	hamfest, Feb. 4th
Message-ID: <4206FEEC-CD29-4BE7-A908-DB1D042D264B at elecraft.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii

Hi all,

Don Minkoff, NK6A, will be giving a talk on outdoor QRP operation and Summits on the Air (SOTA) at the Palm Springs Hamfest on Feb. 4th. 

I'll be joining Don to describe some related optimizations embodied in the Elecraft KX2.

See you there!

73,
Wayne
N6KR



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Message: 8
Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2017 20:47:55 -0500
From: Nr4c <nr4c at widomaker.com>
To: PVRC <pvrc at mailman.qth.net>, elecraft <elecraft at mailman.qth.net>,
	dxlab at yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Elecraft] NPOTA LOCATION
Message-ID: <0455EBEF-9627-4867-9912-F7F1DEF1FF46 at widomaker.com>
Content-Type: text/plain;	charset=us-ascii

Guys, it's time to reset your LoTW Location in your logging program. I and others are getting NPOTA credits for parks during the ARRL RTTY RU contest last weekend. They don't count, but your location info may be wrong when uploaded to LoTW. 

Sent from my iPhone
...nr4c. bill




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Message: 9
Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2017 22:21:23 -0500
From: Doug Ellmore <doug at ellmore.net>
To: Elecraft Reflector Reflector <elecraft at mailman.qth.net>
Subject: [Elecraft] SDRplay and Win4K3
Message-ID:
	<CANAn7wy7J9nOPU3HmEq0vxBYePkMTT7aW4gzZJnwAdwaq7rDAA at mail.gmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8

I've been testing the latest version of SDRplay RSP2 (
http://www.sdrplay.com/rsp2/.

I've been using the original SDRplay for a few months now and like the 2mhz
spectrum display using my K3's IF out and Win4K3suite.

Win4K3 (http://va2fsq.com/ ) has added support for the new release SDRPlay
RSP2 and likely will be doing additional enhancements to take advantage of
the SDRPlay RSP2 expanded device features.

It is really nice in that you can have 2mhz of spectrum in the panadapter
display in Win4K3 Suite.

That said, CWSkimmer does not yet support the SDRplay, but there are some
doing some work arounds with virtual audio cables (VAC).  So, using a T
connector, I also use the IF Out with my LP-Pan2 and Steinberg UR22
soundcard with CWSkimmer.

The noise floor of the SDRPlay is really good and with adjustments, I am
able to see very weak signals coming out of the K3 IF.

73

Doug NA1DX

-- 
Doug Ellmore, Sr.
doug at ellmore.net


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Message: 10
Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2017 09:30:57 +0000 (UTC)
From: Johnny Siu <vr2xmc at yahoo.com.hk>
To: Elecraft Reflector <elecraft at mailman.qth.net>
Subject: [Elecraft] OT: a short presentation to a group of primary
	school children about radio
Message-ID: <1726150408.1329450.1484127057061 at mail.yahoo.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8

Hello Elecrafters,
It is off-topic and please press delete if you don't want to read.
I am going to give a short presentation to a group of primary school children (age below 12) about the application of radio / wireless in our daily life. ?I would like to take this chance to give them some introduction of amateur radio.
If any of you have done similar talk before, would you mind sharing with me your presentation materials? ?Your copy right is duly observed and I will acknowledge the source of materials.
On the other hand, if you consider there are interesting materials in you tube, please share me the weblink.
Any assistance will be appreciated. ?Could you please reply off-the-list?
Thanks & 73
Johnny VR2XMC

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Message: 11
Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2017 14:54:54 +0000
From: James Rodenkirch <Rodenkirch_LLC at msn.com>
To: "elecraft at mailman.qth.net" <elecraft at mailman.qth.net>
Subject: [Elecraft] OT (sort of) -- went from WSJT-X vs 1.6 to vs 1.7
	(have a KX3) and having problems...
Message-ID:
	<SN1PR16MB0623D835AF70BAE67226CC83F0660 at SN1PR16MB0623.namprd16.prod.outlook.com>
	
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"

...first off my mea culpa entreaty 'cuz I lost documentation on vs 1.6 "settings" and then loaded 1.7!

Could someone knowledgeable on moving from 1.6 to 1.7 contact me offline and help me get 1.7 working??? 

Thank you, in advance, for your assistance....72 de Jim Rodenkirch K9JWV


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Message: 12
Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2017 10:39:44 -0500
From: Jim Miller <jim at jtmiller.com>
To: Elecraft Reflector <elecraft at mailman.qth.net>
Subject: [Elecraft] Tandem operation of KPA and ACOM 1500
Message-ID:
	<CACYeN9wZnGAMh8EdBUrCjKzLa7VZDniEUbrO6x6o=zs8PtPbpA at mail.gmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8

Just a note to document what I am planning for tandem (not simultaneous)
operation of my new acquired ACOM 1500 and my trusty KPA500/KAT500 combo.
I'm strictly single op and no SO2R here so a single feedline to my remote
antenna relay.

I bought the ACOM 1500 because I felt I needed additional power at times.
It is serving that need nicely. I'm slowly getting more accustomed to the
operation of a manual tune amplifier after a few years of automated
operation of the Electraft line.

But the KPA/KAT combo is nice for instant-on and quiet idling. I usually
leave my rig on all day if I'm in the house to grab the quick DX spot. At
the first spot of the day of course I need to wait 3 minutes plus tuning
time before getting in the pileup. I find that 3+ minutes torture. The ACOM
1500 fan is also a bit annoying.

So I've decided to put the KPA/KAT back in service in the following way.

Since I have a KANT3a in my K3S I will connect the KPA/KAT to ANT1 and the
ACOM 1500 to ANT2. Selection of the ANT line from the K3S will therefore
exclusively provide RF to one or the other.

Thanks to the internal preamp of the K3S the DIGOUT1 line is freed up to
provide a signal to switch the single feedline to the antenna farm between
the KPA/KAT and ACOM 1500 outputs. I haven't yet selected a legal limit A/B
relay but there appear to be several available. A separate relay also
driven by DIGOUT1 will switch the KEY line between the amps as well.

The KPA/KAT will connect via the AUX bus as usual to provide the former
automation including setting KPA per-band power levels. I'll need to put
the KPA in Standby to go "barefoot" and I already have the barefoot level
set to an appropriate value for the ACOM 1500. The normal drive power to
the KPA is also within the range of power I already use to tune the ACOM so
no problems there if I forget to put the KPA in Standby.

Since DIGOUT1 is per-band and per-antenna the appropriate setting will be
made for each. Of course DIGOUT1 being open collector it will need to be
pulled up and appropriate buffering added to ensure safe operation of the
relay coils.

So with two button presses I can switch between the two amps and the two
ANT connections eliminates the input switching relay and wiring.

Of course if a KPA1500/KAT1500 makes a debut all of this will be replaced
in a heartbeat!!!

Comments or suggestions welcomed!

73

jim ab3cv


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Message: 13
Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2017 09:45:11 -0700 (MST)
From: KV5J <nelasat at yahoo.com>
To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Tandem operation of KPA and ACOM 1500
Message-ID: <1484153111113-7625647.post at n2.nabble.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii

The KANT3a was a great add-on for those that don't want or need the internal
tuner.
Happy to have grabbed one.

Keith, KV5J



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Message: 14
Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2017 14:56:01 -0500
From: George Kidder <gkidder at ilstu.edu>
To: 'Elecraft Reflector' <elecraft at mailman.qth.net>
Subject: [Elecraft] KAT500 Utility problem
Message-ID: <7cda8187-967e-872e-243e-bc11a0e4e22b at ilstu.edu>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed

Hi gang,

I hope this is a minor problem, but I cannot seem to solve it.  I have a 
K3 running 5.53 firmware, and a recently acquired KAT500. They are 
connected as in Figure 2 of the KAT500 manual, using the KPAK3AUX cable 
with the key line interrupter, and a separate key line to activate my 
AL-80A amplifier.  Everything seems to work "just as per" with the 
exception of the frequency tracking function on receive.  This was 
running at one time; I did a tune every time the K3 crossed a frequency 
boundary, and it seemed to track thereafter.  Now it won't track - no 
relay noise from one end of the band to the other.  It seems to remember 
specific settings, and will re-tune on transmit, but does not re-tune on 
VFO movement.  (No split freq, either.)  There is no KAT3 in the K3, so 
CONFIG:KAT3 indicates "not inSt", but tap 1 toggles getween KAT500N and 
KAT500Y, and was left in the latter position.

This is no big deal, but it would be handy if the KAT500 would return on 
receive to the last settings for that frequency, rather than wait for a 
transmit pulse.  Besides, it is supposed to do just that!

Any thoughts?

George, W3HBM



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Message: 15
Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2017 20:29:19 +0000 (UTC)
From: Harry Yingst <hlyingst at yahoo.com>
To: "gkidder at ilstu.edu" <gkidder at ilstu.edu>, 	'Elecraft Reflector'
	<elecraft at mailman.qth.net>
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KAT500 Utility problem
Message-ID: <620925184.1339604.1484166559564 at mail.yahoo.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8

I'm running the latest ver 5.54 on my K3 and ver1.75 on my KAT500 and I do hear the relays click as I tune
But you do need to pause on a frequency for them to click (they don't switch while tuning)





     From: George Kidder <gkidder at ilstu.edu>
To: 'Elecraft Reflector' <elecraft at mailman.qth.net> 
Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2017 2:56 PM
Subject: [Elecraft] KAT500 Utility problem

Hi gang,

I hope this is a minor problem, but I cannot seem to solve it.? I have a 
K3 running 5.53 firmware, and a recently acquired KAT500. They are 
connected as in Figure 2 of the KAT500 manual, using the KPAK3AUX cable 
with the key line interrupter, and a separate key line to activate my 
AL-80A amplifier.? Everything seems to work "just as per" with the 
exception of the frequency tracking function on receive.? This was 
running at one time; I did a tune every time the K3 crossed a frequency 
boundary, and it seemed to track thereafter.? Now it won't track - no 
relay noise from one end of the band to the other.? It seems to remember 
specific settings, and will re-tune on transmit, but does not re-tune on 
VFO movement.? (No split freq, either.)? There is no KAT3 in the K3, so 
CONFIG:KAT3 indicates "not inSt", but tap 1 toggles getween KAT500N and 
KAT500Y, and was left in the latter position.

This is no big deal, but it would be handy if the KAT500 would return on 
receive to the last settings for that frequency, rather than wait for a 
transmit pulse.? Besides, it is supposed to do just that!

Any thoughts?

George, W3HBM

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Message: 16
Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2017 16:58:18 -0500 (EST)
From: HankP <pfizenmayer at q.com>
To: KV5J <nelasat at yahoo.com>
Cc: elecraft at mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KANT3A
Message-ID:
	<297841174.5291462.1484171898836.JavaMail.root at md04.quartz.synacor.com>
	
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8

I don't see a KANT3a listed - I was hoping to get something like that with my K3 - I wanted the ANT1 ANT2 function but had no need for the tuner . Was told there was not enough market for such an animal . Too late now, ended up buying a KAT3 to get the function , figured a K3 with tuner more appealing to many . I have same sort of deal -- KAT500/KPA500 until going gets rough - ANT2 gets the Alpha brick on key amp . ????? Hank K7HP ----- Original Message -----
> The KANT3a was a great add-on for those that don't want or need the
> internal
> tuner.
> Happy to have grabbed one.
> Keith, KV5J
> --


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Message: 17
Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2017 17:19:27 -0500
From: Jim Miller <jim at jtmiller.com>
To: pfizenmayer at q.com
Cc: KV5J <nelasat at yahoo.com>, Elecraft Reflector
	<elecraft at mailman.qth.net>
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KANT3A
Message-ID:
	<CACYeN9yhBnY0w8zCFqh5cwhD6rbRESSXHGYHvOmwUHHc203O7Q at mail.gmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8

Typo on my part.

It's a KAT3a.

jim ab3cv

On Wed, Jan 11, 2017 at 4:58 PM, HankP <pfizenmayer at q.com> wrote:

> I don't see a KANT3a listed - I was hoping to get something like that with
> my K3 - I wanted the ANT1 ANT2 function but had no need for the tuner . Was
> told there was not enough market for such an animal . Too late now, ended
> up buying a KAT3 to get the function , figured a K3 with tuner more
> appealing to many . I have same sort of deal -- KAT500/KPA500 until going
> gets rough - ANT2 gets the Alpha brick on key amp . ????? Hank K7HP -----
> Original Message -----
>> The KANT3a was a great add-on for those that don't want or need the
>> internal
>> tuner.
>> Happy to have grabbed one.
>> Keith, KV5J
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Message: 18
Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2017 15:35:43 -0700 (MST)
From: KV5J <nelasat at yahoo.com>
To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KANT3A
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There were a few bare pc boards for sale (by a 3rd party) with a BOM list for
a KANT3 that used both antenna connectors controlled by the K3.  Not sure if
there are any still for sale.  You might search the archives.

Keith, KV5J 



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Message: 19
Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2017 18:17:16 -0500
From: Carl Yaffey1 <cyaffey at gmail.com>
To: Elecraft Reflector <elecraft at mailman.qth.net>
Subject: [Elecraft] Thanks to Elecraft support
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I posted a while back about not being able to drive my KPA500 to full power on 6M. Trying to drive it beyond 200 watts resulted in a HI SWR fault. I initially  blamed it on the antenna, cables, connectors, etc. etc. It worked fine on a dummy load.
But changing antennas and cables and so on resulted in the same problem. Next, I hooked up my ICOM 706MKIIG. No problem!
Aha! something?s wrong with the K3S. But it worked on the dummy load. 
Scratched my head a while and finally decided the K3S was putting out a spurious signal of some kind. No problem with a dummy load because it didn?t care what frequencies it was seeing.

There was an additional problem: No transmit with mode set to USB or LSB. Change mode to CW, tap the key, switch back to USB, output fine.

So I sent the K3S off to Elecraft. Yep! Spurious signals being generated. They replaced Q7 and 8 on the KPA3A, set bias, and did tx again calibration. 
They also replaced the KLPA3A board.

Just got it back today and all is well. 

Great service!

73  (NOT 73s),
K8NU


Carl Yaffey  K8NU
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Message: 20
Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2017 19:07:56 -0500
From: briancom <alsopb at comcast.net>
To: Carl Yaffey1 <cyaffey at gmail.com>
Cc: Elecraft Reflector <elecraft at mailman.qth.net>
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Thanks to Elecraft support
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Sent from my iPad

> On Jan 11, 2017, at 6:17 PM, Carl Yaffey1 <cyaffey at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> I posted a while back about not being able to drive my KPA500 to full power on 6M. Trying to drive it beyond 200 watts resulted in a HI SWR fault. I initially  blamed it on the antenna, cables, connectors, etc. etc. It worked fine on a dummy load.
> But changing antennas and cables and so on resulted in the same problem. Next, I hooked up my ICOM 706MKIIG. No problem!
> Aha! something?s wrong with the K3S. But it worked on the dummy load. 
> Scratched my head a while and finally decided the K3S was putting out a spurious signal of some kind. No problem with a dummy load because it didn?t care what frequencies it was seeing.
> 
> There was an additional problem: No transmit with mode set to USB or LSB. Change mode to CW, tap the key, switch back to USB, output fine.
> 
> So I sent the K3S off to Elecraft. Yep! Spurious signals being generated. They replaced Q7 and 8 on the KPA3A, set bias, and did tx again calibration. 
> They also replaced the KLPA3A board.
> 
> Just got it back today and all is well. 
> 
> Great service!
> 
> 73  (NOT 73s),
> K8NU
> 
> 
> Carl Yaffey  K8NU
> Recording studio.
> cyaffeyNO_SPAM at gmail.com 
> 614 268 6353, Columbus OH
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Message: 21
Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2017 19:17:19 -0500
From: George Kidder <gkidder at ilstu.edu>
To: Harry Yingst <hlyingst at yahoo.com>,	'Elecraft Reflector'
	<elecraft at mailman.qth.net>
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KAT500 Utility problem
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Dick and Steve,

Thanks so much for your comments.  The problem was indeed a cable - it 
had fallen out completely!  The rig is in a tough place to get at the 
back, and I never noticed.  The "interrupter" can only be fastened with 
a wrench, and I had not done that, with the results noted.  Now I have 
found the wrench in my tool box, and I think it will stay in place!

Harry,

You are right about the requirement to pause - now I can see that, with 
the rest of the problems solved.

I guess you cannot expect information transfer through thin air!

Thanks again,

George, W3HBM


On 1/11/2017 3:29 PM, Harry Yingst wrote:
> I'm running the latest ver 5.54 on my K3 and ver1.75 on my KAT500 and I do hear the relays click as I tune
> But you do need to pause on a frequency for them to click (they don't switch while tuning)
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>       From: George Kidder <gkidder at ilstu.edu>
>  To: 'Elecraft Reflector' <elecraft at mailman.qth.net>
>  Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2017 2:56 PM
>  Subject: [Elecraft] KAT500 Utility problem
> 
> Hi gang,
> 
> I hope this is a minor problem, but I cannot seem to solve it.  I have a
> K3 running 5.53 firmware, and a recently acquired KAT500. They are
> connected as in Figure 2 of the KAT500 manual, using the KPAK3AUX cable
> with the key line interrupter, and a separate key line to activate my
> AL-80A amplifier.  Everything seems to work "just as per" with the
> exception of the frequency tracking function on receive.  This was
> running at one time; I did a tune every time the K3 crossed a frequency
> boundary, and it seemed to track thereafter.  Now it won't track - no
> relay noise from one end of the band to the other.  It seems to remember
> specific settings, and will re-tune on transmit, but does not re-tune on
> VFO movement.  (No split freq, either.)  There is no KAT3 in the K3, so
> CONFIG:KAT3 indicates "not inSt", but tap 1 toggles getween KAT500N and
> KAT500Y, and was left in the latter position.
> 
> This is no big deal, but it would be handy if the KAT500 would return on
> receive to the last settings for that frequency, rather than wait for a
> transmit pulse.  Besides, it is supposed to do just that!
> 
> Any thoughts?
> 
> George, W3HBM
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Message: 22
Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2017 16:28:39 -0800
From: "Ron D'Eau Claire" <ron at cobi.biz>
To: "'Jim Miller'" <jim at jtmiller.com>,	<pfizenmayer at q.com>
Cc: "'Elecraft Reflector'" <elecraft at mailman.qth.net>,	"'KV5J'"
	<nelasat at yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KANT3A
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The KAT3A is the newest version of the Internal ATU. 

73, Ron AC7AC

-----Original Message-----
From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Jim
Miller
Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2017 2:19 PM
To: pfizenmayer at q.com
Cc: Elecraft Reflector; KV5J
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KANT3A

Typo on my part.

It's a KAT3a.

jim ab3cv

On Wed, Jan 11, 2017 at 4:58 PM, HankP <pfizenmayer at q.com> wrote:

> I don't see a KANT3a listed - I was hoping to get something like that 
> with my K3 - I wanted the ANT1 ANT2 function but had no need for the 
> tuner . Was told there was not enough market for such an animal . Too 
> late now, ended up buying a KAT3 to get the function , figured a K3 
> with tuner more appealing to many . I have same sort of deal -- 
> KAT500/KPA500 until going gets rough - ANT2 gets the Alpha brick on 
> key amp . ????? Hank K7HP ----- Original Message -----
>> The KANT3a was a great add-on for those that don't want or need the 
>> internal tuner.
>> Happy to have grabbed one.
>> Keith, KV5J
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Message: 23
Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2017 17:03:02 -0800
From: Rick Tavan <rick at tavan.com>
To: Jim Miller <jim at jtmiller.com>
Cc: Elecraft Reflector <elecraft at mailman.qth.net>
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Tandem operation of KPA and ACOM 1500
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That's similar to what I do when operating one K3 remotely. I use a Six Pak
driven by a pair of ACC-driven band decoders for antenna switching between
the two amps because it's there already, used for SO2R antenna switching
when I'm physically at the station. That would be overkill for you - as you
say, you just need a SPDT RF relay like the ancient Dow-Key's we used to
use for T-R switching in the 60's. You could even buy a Six Pak replacement
part open frame relay from WX0B and mount it in a mini-box with some
SO-239s, very inexpensive. If I were you, I'd use a simple SPST switch
instead of programming the many combinations of DIGOUT1.

I run Key Out from the K3 to the Alpha 87A and key the KPA500 through the
ACC cable. If I neglect to put the KPA in STBY when using the Alpha, it
keys in parallel but has no drive. No extra relay, no problem. You could
also key both amps concurrently with the K3 Key Out line and a Y-splitter.

Have fun!

/Rick N6XI

On Wed, Jan 11, 2017 at 7:39 AM, Jim Miller <jim at jtmiller.com> wrote:

> Just a note to document what I am planning for tandem (not simultaneous)
> operation of my new acquired ACOM 1500 and my trusty KPA500/KAT500 combo.
> I'm strictly single op and no SO2R here so a single feedline to my remote
> antenna relay.
> 
> I bought the ACOM 1500 because I felt I needed additional power at times.
> It is serving that need nicely. I'm slowly getting more accustomed to the
> operation of a manual tune amplifier after a few years of automated
> operation of the Electraft line.
> 
> But the KPA/KAT combo is nice for instant-on and quiet idling. I usually
> leave my rig on all day if I'm in the house to grab the quick DX spot. At
> the first spot of the day of course I need to wait 3 minutes plus tuning
> time before getting in the pileup. I find that 3+ minutes torture. The ACOM
> 1500 fan is also a bit annoying.
> 
> So I've decided to put the KPA/KAT back in service in the following way.
> 
> Since I have a KANT3a in my K3S I will connect the KPA/KAT to ANT1 and the
> ACOM 1500 to ANT2. Selection of the ANT line from the K3S will therefore
> exclusively provide RF to one or the other.
> 
> Thanks to the internal preamp of the K3S the DIGOUT1 line is freed up to
> provide a signal to switch the single feedline to the antenna farm between
> the KPA/KAT and ACOM 1500 outputs. I haven't yet selected a legal limit A/B
> relay but there appear to be several available. A separate relay also
> driven by DIGOUT1 will switch the KEY line between the amps as well.
> 
> The KPA/KAT will connect via the AUX bus as usual to provide the former
> automation including setting KPA per-band power levels. I'll need to put
> the KPA in Standby to go "barefoot" and I already have the barefoot level
> set to an appropriate value for the ACOM 1500. The normal drive power to
> the KPA is also within the range of power I already use to tune the ACOM so
> no problems there if I forget to put the KPA in Standby.
> 
> Since DIGOUT1 is per-band and per-antenna the appropriate setting will be
> made for each. Of course DIGOUT1 being open collector it will need to be
> pulled up and appropriate buffering added to ensure safe operation of the
> relay coils.
> 
> So with two button presses I can switch between the two amps and the two
> ANT connections eliminates the input switching relay and wiring.
> 
> Of course if a KPA1500/KAT1500 makes a debut all of this will be replaced
> in a heartbeat!!!
> 
> Comments or suggestions welcomed!
> 
> 73
> 
> jim ab3cv
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Message: 24
Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2017 01:10:46 +0000 (UTC)
From: <ac5p at sbcglobal.net>
To: Elecraft Reflector <elecraft at mailman.qth.net>
Subject: [Elecraft] Age of K2?
Message-ID: <1421870438.1607246.1484183446593 at mail.yahoo.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8

Anyone have a K2 close to serial 6900 that can tell me mo/yr purchased??? Tried email to sales without response.Thanks,? 
Mike? AC5P? 

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Message: 25
Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2017 17:16:36 -0800
From: Fred Jensen <k6dgw at foothill.net>
To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Age of K2?
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Big Pineapple Express, their power may have been chancy.  Lots of water 
and snow here.

73,

Fred K6DGW
Sparks NV
Washoe County DM09dn



On 1/11/2017 5:10 PM, ac5p at sbcglobal.net wrote:
>  Anyone have a K2 close to serial 6900 that can tell me mo/yr purchased?   Tried email to sales without response.Thanks,
> Mike  AC5P
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Message: 26
Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2017 20:18:08 -0500
From: Stewart <stew at ke4yh.com>
To: 'Elecraft Reflector' <elecraft at mailman.qth.net>
Subject: [Elecraft] Happy Dance
Message-ID: <759cc425-15b7-e2f7-67d9-ab4cb69379f1 at ke4yh.com>
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Received the KAT-500 AND KPA-500 Kits today. Don't bother me tomorrow, 
I'll be busy. :-)

Stew ke4yh




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Message: 27
Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2017 17:22:45 -0800
From: Fred Jensen <k6dgw at foothill.net>
To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Happy Dance
Message-ID: <8c11c4a5-14d2-d4c8-e9de-108d1995f5cf at foothill.net>
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Cool!  Be very careful with the KPA500 and follow the instructions for 
transformer mounting very closely. The one washer really isn't flat 
although it sort of looks like it is.

Fred K6DGW
Sparks NV DM09dn
Washoe County

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--7-8 Oct 2017


On 1/11/2017 5:18 PM, Stewart wrote:
> Received the KAT-500 AND KPA-500 Kits today. Don't bother me tomorrow, 
> I'll be busy. :-)
> 
> Stew ke4yh



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Message: 28
Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2017 20:30:26 -0500
From: Don Wilhelm <donwilh at embarqmail.com>
To: ac5p at sbcglobal.net, Elecraft Reflector <elecraft at mailman.qth.net>
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Age of K2?
Message-ID: <980bb55b-7b0d-0202-7ada-bd31f0c1e9cf at embarqmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed

Mike,

I recently did some investigation of my repair records, and discovered 
that a K2 serial number of 69xx dates back to 2011 or 2012.
Never fear, that serial number is fully up to date with all mods that 
are available for the K2.
It may have MCU 2.04P while the newest is 2.04r, but the only difference 
between those two firmware releases is that 2.04r locks the sidetone 
source at U8-4.  MCU 2.04P allows the sidetone source to be switched 
between U6-25 and U8-4 in support of very old K2s.  The number of 
support calls and emails saying "I have lost my sidetone" prompted 
Elecraft to make that change.

So if you have MCU 2.04P and lose your sidetone, just check the setting 
of the sidetone source - it is easy to change, go to the STL menu and 
edit the parameter - tap the DISPLAY button to toggle the sidetone 
source.  You could also update the firmware to 2.04r (E610002 - FWK2MCU)

73,
Don W3FPR



On 1/11/2017 8:10 PM, ac5p at sbcglobal.net wrote:
> Anyone have a K2 close to serial 6900 that can tell me mo/yr purchased?   Tried email to sales without response.Thanks,
> Mike  AC5P


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Message: 29
Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2017 19:43:22 -0600
From: "Jim Cox" <jcox123 at bellsouth.net>
To: "'Elecraft Reflector'" <elecraft at mailman.qth.net>,	"Stewart"
	<stew at ke4yh.com>
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Happy Dance
Message-ID: <64D77B6D4DB4451E80451892DF5C78DD at JimPC>
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
	reply-type=response

Enjoy, you have a couple of nice pieces of Elecraft gear.  Jim K4JAF

-----Original Message----- 
From: Stewart 
Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2017 7:18 PM 
To: 'Elecraft Reflector' 
Subject: [Elecraft] Happy Dance 

Received the KAT-500 AND KPA-500 Kits today. Don't bother me tomorrow, 
I'll be busy. :-)

Stew ke4yh


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