[Elecraft] K3s and RemoteRig

[Jim Rhodes]

Rick and Skip, you forget that the k3s has a direct UPS connection and
internal sound card that users often prefer to use as there is then less
cabling involved. This is not possible with remoterig as far as I know.
Wish it were.

Jim Rhodes
K0XU

On Aug 13, 2017 23:59, "Fred Jensen" <k6dgw at foothill.net> wrote:

> There are two questions on the list, here's what I know to both:
>
> Re quoted message below:  Yes.  RemoteRig will install 4 "virtual" COM
> ports.  View them in the Device Manager under PORTS.  If you're fortunate,
> they will be labeled RRC-1258 COM0, -COM1, -COM2, and -COM Extra.  See
> below if you're not fortunate. Following each one, in [ ], will be another
> COM port. Find the RRC-1258 COM1 port and use the [COMx] as the port in
> your logger as the K3 port.  It is really talking to the remote radio.
> It's more or less transparent.
>
> For the less fortunate: Sometimes some flavors of Win10 show the ports in
> the Device Mangler, however they will be missing the RRC-1258 label.  Watch
> as you turn on the RRC, they always seem to come up in the order listed
> above, label or not.
>
> Re your other message: Yes, it is essentially like "being there," or more
> appropriately, it is just as if your K3/mini is making the RF.  There is
> just barely noticeable latency if you spin the dial rapidly, and there will
> be some I'net QRN [quick pops, and snaps], and occasionally dropouts,
> depending on your connection and ISP.  BW requirements are fairly low,
> maybe 150-200 KBps, from watching the router here[50 MBps ATT Uverse] here.
>
> Teamviewer [or similar] can be used to control your station automation,
> including the control program for the KPA500 or [I presume] the KPA1500.
> Getting the P3 to work is another issue with no simple answer. The P3 takes
> input from the remote K3's 8 MHz first IF.  The P3 at the remote is also
> connected to the remote K3 which makes the various modes work and track the
> radio.I'm sure many technological suggestions will be forthcoming here, but
> believe me, it is non-trivial.
>
> Teamviewer latency is annoyingand makes dragging windows around the screen
> or resizing them very frustrating. Controlling rotators works OK but you
> need to cultivate a high degree of patience with the mouse.
>
> If you want to switch the remote radio to local when you're there, just
> disconnect the RRC-1258.  A lot of the details depend on how you're keying
> and connecting the mic/headphones/spkrs.  Running remote, keying the mini
> [from the internal keyer or the key jack] keys the remote. The mic/line in
> function just as if they were connected AT the remote.
>
> Hope this helps
>
> 73,
>
> Fred ("Skip") K6DGW
> Sparks NV USA
> Washoe County DM09dn
>
> On 8/13/2017 5:34 PM, Jim Miller wrote:
>
>> Another K3/0-mini RR question:
>>
>> If I have a laptop at the control point running my logging program or
>> N1MM+
>> for contesting how does it communicate with K3/0-mini if the mini is
>> connected to the RR?
>>
>> thanks
>>
>> jim ab3cv
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Aug 13, 2017 at 8:08 PM, Jim Miller <jim at jtmiller.com> wrote:
>>
>> I have a K3s, P3 (and someday a KPA1500) and I'm considering a RemoteRig
>>> and K3/Mini for remote operation.
>>>
>>> I realize the P3 access and KPA1500 if any will need to come from some
>>> other source like Teamviewer or VNC. I need that for controlling the
>>> rotator and power switching anyway.
>>>
>>> I'm told that RR/K3-mini performance is like "being there."
>>>
>>> One issue I have is the amount of disconnecting and reconnecting of
>>> cables
>>> when switching from local operation of the K3s to setting up for remote
>>> operation.
>>>
>>> Nothing I've seen in the documentation leads me to believe that this
>>> reconfiguration of cabling for the K3s is any simpler that what is needed
>>> for the original K3.
>>>
>>> For those of you who have RR and a K3s: did I miss something? Does the
>>> cleaned up wiring on the K3s via USB for normal local operation offer any
>>> advantages when it comes to RR configuration?
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>>
>>> jim ab3cv
>>>
>>>
>>>
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