[Elecraft] K3s and RemoteRig

Fred Jensen k6dgw at foothill.net
Mon Aug 14 00:58:27 EDT 2017


There are two questions on the list, here's what I know to both:

Re quoted message below:  Yes.  RemoteRig will install 4 "virtual" COM 
ports.  View them in the Device Manager under PORTS.  If you're 
fortunate, they will be labeled RRC-1258 COM0, -COM1, -COM2, and -COM 
Extra.  See below if you're not fortunate. Following each one, in [ ], 
will be another COM port. Find the RRC-1258 COM1 port and use the [COMx] 
as the port in your logger as the K3 port.  It is really talking to the 
remote radio.  It's more or less transparent.

For the less fortunate: Sometimes some flavors of Win10 show the ports 
in the Device Mangler, however they will be missing the RRC-1258 label.  
Watch as you turn on the RRC, they always seem to come up in the order 
listed above, label or not.

Re your other message: Yes, it is essentially like "being there," or 
more appropriately, it is just as if your K3/mini is making the RF.  
There is just barely noticeable latency if you spin the dial rapidly, 
and there will be some I'net QRN [quick pops, and snaps], and 
occasionally dropouts, depending on your connection and ISP.  BW 
requirements are fairly low, maybe 150-200 KBps, from watching the 
router here[50 MBps ATT Uverse] here.

Teamviewer [or similar] can be used to control your station automation, 
including the control program for the KPA500 or [I presume] the 
KPA1500.  Getting the P3 to work is another issue with no simple answer. 
The P3 takes input from the remote K3's 8 MHz first IF.  The P3 at the 
remote is also connected to the remote K3 which makes the various modes 
work and track the radio.I'm sure many technological suggestions will be 
forthcoming here, but believe me, it is non-trivial.

Teamviewer latency is annoyingand makes dragging windows around the 
screen or resizing them very frustrating. Controlling rotators works OK 
but you need to cultivate a high degree of patience with the mouse.

If you want to switch the remote radio to local when you're there, just 
disconnect the RRC-1258.  A lot of the details depend on how you're 
keying and connecting the mic/headphones/spkrs.  Running remote, keying 
the mini [from the internal keyer or the key jack] keys the remote. The 
mic/line in function just as if they were connected AT the remote.

Hope this helps

73,

Fred ("Skip") K6DGW
Sparks NV USA
Washoe County DM09dn

On 8/13/2017 5:34 PM, Jim Miller wrote:
> Another K3/0-mini RR question:
>
> If I have a laptop at the control point running my logging program or N1MM+
> for contesting how does it communicate with K3/0-mini if the mini is
> connected to the RR?
>
> thanks
>
> jim ab3cv
>
>
>
> On Sun, Aug 13, 2017 at 8:08 PM, Jim Miller <jim at jtmiller.com> wrote:
>
>> I have a K3s, P3 (and someday a KPA1500) and I'm considering a RemoteRig
>> and K3/Mini for remote operation.
>>
>> I realize the P3 access and KPA1500 if any will need to come from some
>> other source like Teamviewer or VNC. I need that for controlling the
>> rotator and power switching anyway.
>>
>> I'm told that RR/K3-mini performance is like "being there."
>>
>> One issue I have is the amount of disconnecting and reconnecting of cables
>> when switching from local operation of the K3s to setting up for remote
>> operation.
>>
>> Nothing I've seen in the documentation leads me to believe that this
>> reconfiguration of cabling for the K3s is any simpler that what is needed
>> for the original K3.
>>
>> For those of you who have RR and a K3s: did I miss something? Does the
>> cleaned up wiring on the K3s via USB for normal local operation offer any
>> advantages when it comes to RR configuration?
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> jim ab3cv
>>
>>
>>
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