[Elecraft] I am officially a HAM!!!

Tue Feb 9 11:03:00 EST 2016

Congratulations Clay!  You have picked a very good radio, and a very
good hobby as well...  Have fun, and welcome, hope to work you soon!
-- 
73's, and thanks,
Dave

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On Tue, 2016-02-09 at 09:57 -0600, Clay Autery wrote:
> As of sometime yesterday, 02/08/2016, I was granted my Amateur Radio
> License with General privileges.
> 
> Thank you to everyone who had a hand in making this possible.  I am
> quite happy and yes, a little proud, too.
> 
> In just a few hours, I will take possession of my Elecraft K3s and P3
> components.
> I have two super selfless, super-experienced, super-patient operators
> who've taken an interest in me.
> And I have TWO local clubs available to me from whose members I can
> learn and through which I can contribute to the hobby and my
> community.
> 
> My cup truly runneth over...  Thank you, Lord!
> 
> 73,
> Clay, KG5LKV
> 
> On 2/9/2016 9:06 AM, Robert Nobis wrote:
> > Hi Bob McGraw,
> > 
> > I agree, except on one point: I’s say 90%, rather than 75%, of the
> > stuff we use and methods employed would put most of the station
> > stuff in the trash.
> > 
> > 73,
> > 
> > 
> > Bob Nobis - N7RJN
> > n7rjn at nobis.net
> > 
> > 
> > > On Feb 9, 2016, at 08:01, Bob McGraw K4TAX <rmcgraw at blomand.net>
> > > wrote:
> > > 
> > > I'm one of the other Bob's or Robert's........
> > > 
> > > Since the assembly of coax wound around a toroid doughnut style
> > > bobbin is typically not exposed to vibration, such as might exist
> > > in an airplane, boat or space vehicle, the use of a solid
> > > conductor coax such as RG-303 would not seem to be of
> > > concern.  The more important point and my experience and as
> > > related by others, the use of coax which has foam dielectric in a
> > > tight radius bend has been proven or shown to be
> > > problematic.    As to if the manufactures bending radius
> > > dimension is being violated, I find to be of little concern.
> > > 
> > > After all, as a rule, hams are noted for pushing things to the
> > > limit and then some and getting buy with it.  If hams choose to
> > > "stick to the rules 100% in all aspects of their
> > > stations"............I'd say 75% of the stuff we use and methods
> > > employed would put most of the station stuff in the trash.
> > > 
> > > 73
> > > Bob, K4TAX
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > On 2/9/2016 8:45 AM, Guy Olinger K2AV wrote:
> > > > Hi Bob, et al,
> > > > 
> > > > Thank you all for your careful attention.
> > > > 
> > > > I read it wrong, as several have pointed out overnight. I
> > > > transposed that
> > > > to a percentage in my memory after reading it. One of the
> > > > reasons for
> > > > referring people to the original material in these cases.
> > > > Someone will get
> > > > it right.
> > > > 
> > > > That makes it two and a half hairs :>)  Doesn't appear to
> > > > change the
> > > > argument. To me anyway the method is still a crude measurement
> > > > instead of
> > > > watching a wide frequency scan while bending the cable along
> > > > with other
> > > > performance specific measurements.
> > > > 
> > > > I still would not use the solid center conductor versions
> > > > (RG142/303) on a
> > > > winding.
> > > > 
> > > > 73, Guy K2AV
> > > > 
> > > > On Tuesday, February 9, 2016, Robert Nobis <n7rjn at nobis.net>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > > Hi Guy,
> > > > > 
> > > > > I am not sure how you arrived at the “2/1000 of an inch”
> > > > > figure from the
> > > > > ANSI spec? The spec actually says “A change in ovality from a
> > > > > given
> > > > > sample’s initial measured value of 0.010 inches or more (>
> > > > > 0.010)
> > > > > represents the point of non-acceptable bending performance.”
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 73,
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > Bob Nobis - N7RJN
> > > > > n7rjn at nobis.net <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','n7rjn at nobis.net
> > > > > ');>
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > On Feb 8, 2016, at 18:01, Guy Olinger K2AV <k2av.guy at gmail.co
> > > > > m
> > > > > <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','k2av.guy at gmail.com');>> wrote:
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > I also suggest that everyone carefully study the ANSI
> > > > > standard until it is
> > > > > clear what they are doing mechanically and see what they are
> > > > > actually
> > > > > measuring:
> > > > > 
> > > > > http://www.scte.org/documents/pdf/standards/ANSI_SCTE%2039%20
> > > > > 2007.pdf
> > > > > 
> > > > > The method of measuring is in section 4. They are looking for
> > > > > a limit of
> > > > > 1% surface deformity when bending.
> > > > > 
> > > > > In the case of RG400 with .195 inch OD, that would be 2/1000
> > > > > of an inch
> > > > > (yes, that's three zeros, two one thousandths of an inch)
> > > > > bending deformity
> > > > > at the surface of the teflon jacket, or half the thickness of
> > > > > an average
> > > > > human hair.
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > 
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