[Elecraft] I am officially a HAM!!!

[Bob McGraw K4TAX]

Congratulations on all points. 

Bob, K4TAX


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> On Feb 9, 2016, at 9:57 AM, Clay Autery <cautery at montac.com> wrote:
> 
> As of sometime yesterday, 02/08/2016, I was granted my Amateur Radio
> License with General privileges.
> 
> Thank you to everyone who had a hand in making this possible.  I am
> quite happy and yes, a little proud, too.
> 
> In just a few hours, I will take possession of my Elecraft K3s and P3
> components.
> I have two super selfless, super-experienced, super-patient operators
> who've taken an interest in me.
> And I have TWO local clubs available to me from whose members I can
> learn and through which I can contribute to the hobby and my community.
> 
> My cup truly runneth over...  Thank you, Lord!
> 
> 73,
> Clay, KG5LKV
> 
>> On 2/9/2016 9:06 AM, Robert Nobis wrote:
>> Hi Bob McGraw,
>> 
>> I agree, except on one point: I’s say 90%, rather than 75%, of the stuff we use and methods employed would put most of the station stuff in the trash.
>> 
>> 73,
>> 
>> 
>> Bob Nobis - N7RJN
>> n7rjn at nobis.net
>> 
>> 
>>> On Feb 9, 2016, at 08:01, Bob McGraw K4TAX <rmcgraw at blomand.net> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I'm one of the other Bob's or Robert's........
>>> 
>>> Since the assembly of coax wound around a toroid doughnut style bobbin is typically not exposed to vibration, such as might exist in an airplane, boat or space vehicle, the use of a solid conductor coax such as RG-303 would not seem to be of concern.  The more important point and my experience and as related by others, the use of coax which has foam dielectric in a tight radius bend has been proven or shown to be problematic.    As to if the manufactures bending radius dimension is being violated, I find to be of little concern.
>>> 
>>> After all, as a rule, hams are noted for pushing things to the limit and then some and getting buy with it.  If hams choose to "stick to the rules 100% in all aspects of their stations"............I'd say 75% of the stuff we use and methods employed would put most of the station stuff in the trash.
>>> 
>>> 73
>>> Bob, K4TAX
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On 2/9/2016 8:45 AM, Guy Olinger K2AV wrote:
>>>> Hi Bob, et al,
>>>> 
>>>> Thank you all for your careful attention.
>>>> 
>>>> I read it wrong, as several have pointed out overnight. I transposed that
>>>> to a percentage in my memory after reading it. One of the reasons for
>>>> referring people to the original material in these cases. Someone will get
>>>> it right.
>>>> 
>>>> That makes it two and a half hairs :>)  Doesn't appear to change the
>>>> argument. To me anyway the method is still a crude measurement instead of
>>>> watching a wide frequency scan while bending the cable along with other
>>>> performance specific measurements.
>>>> 
>>>> I still would not use the solid center conductor versions (RG142/303) on a
>>>> winding.
>>>> 
>>>> 73, Guy K2AV
>>>> 
>>>>> On Tuesday, February 9, 2016, Robert Nobis <n7rjn at nobis.net> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hi Guy,
>>>>> 
>>>>> I am not sure how you arrived at the “2/1000 of an inch” figure from the
>>>>> ANSI spec? The spec actually says “A change in ovality from a given
>>>>> sample’s initial measured value of 0.010 inches or more (> 0.010)
>>>>> represents the point of non-acceptable bending performance.”
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 73,
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Bob Nobis - N7RJN
>>>>> n7rjn at nobis.net <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','n7rjn at nobis.net');>
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Feb 8, 2016, at 18:01, Guy Olinger K2AV <k2av.guy at gmail.com
>>>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','k2av.guy at gmail.com');>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> I also suggest that everyone carefully study the ANSI standard until it is
>>>>> clear what they are doing mechanically and see what they are actually
>>>>> measuring:
>>>>> 
>>>>> http://www.scte.org/documents/pdf/standards/ANSI_SCTE%2039%202007.pdf
>>>>> 
>>>>> The method of measuring is in section 4. They are looking for a limit of
>>>>> 1% surface deformity when bending.
>>>>> 
>>>>> In the case of RG400 with .195 inch OD, that would be 2/1000 of an inch
>>>>> (yes, that's three zeros, two one thousandths of an inch) bending deformity
>>>>> at the surface of the teflon jacket, or half the thickness of an average
>>>>> human hair.
>>> 
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