[Elecraft] P3 bug

Vic Rosenthal 4X6GP/K2VCO k2vco.vic at gmail.com
Mon Dec 29 16:01:43 EST 2014


Right, but I conclusively proved that this is not the (only?) cause by 
reproducing the bug without any applications running on my computer that 
access the K3.

On 29 Dec 2014 22:58, Joe Subich, W4TV wrote:
>
>> It only happens here when the logging program (N1MM+) is active,
>> which suggests it is related to traffic on the RS232 link - perhaps
>> some kind of data collision which is being resolved by timeouts.
>
> N1MM Logger (both Classic and Plus) is extremely aggressive in its
> polling - something like 7 or 9 "GET" items - including FA; FB; and IF;
> all at once every 300 ms. Add a second polling source - e.g. the P3 -
> and the chance of collision, timeout, and/or buffer overflow gets
> fairly substantial rather quickly.
>
> 73,
>
>    ... Joe, W4TV
>
>
> On 2014-12-29 3:32 PM, Ian White wrote:
>>
>>> On Mon,12/29/2014 7:35 AM, Joe Subich, W4TV wrote:
>>>> I have never seen this but I don't have the SVGA.
>>>
>>> Nor have I. Perhaps an RF issue?
>>>
>>> 73, Jim K9YC
>>
>> I have the same problem and it does occur in TEST mode so it isn't RF.
>> It is also a problem of long standing, not related to any recent
>> firmware upgrade.
>>
>> The displays (both P3 and SVGA) hang at very irregular intervals, on
>> average about once in maybe 10-20-30 returns to TX. Sometimes the
>> displays freeze for only about a second, but sometimes for as long as 10
>> seconds or even more. I also have the impression that the problem
>> sometimes occurs in 'streaks' when the probability seems much higher.
>>
>> Unfortunately the problem cannot be created on demand, only by repeated
>> TX-RX cycling, but it does not seem to happen at all with purely manual
>> keying.
>>
>> It only happens here when the logging program (N1MM+) is active, which
>> suggests it is related to traffic on the RS232 link - perhaps some kind
>> of data collision which is being resolved by timeouts. I have the
>> impression that the displays become more likely to hang when the VFOB
>> knob is rotated while transmitting on VFO A, which will feed a backlog
>> of data into the RS232 link or its buffers.  (FYI, my RS232 link uses
>> the hardware COM1 port on the PC motherboard and the PC-P3-K3 chaining
>> is exactly as specified in the manuals; the whole link functions
>> perfectly in every other respect.)
>>
>> Although the problem seems to require that the logging program is
>> running, it does not seem to be directly related to the source of CW
>> and/or PTT. The problem occurs with manual keying and VOX, just as often
>> as it does with keying from N1MM+ (DTR=CW, RTS=PTT).
>>
>> The same problem also occurs on RTTY but I'm not sure about SSB.
>>
>>
>> 73 from Ian GM3SEK
>>
>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of
>>> Jim Brown
>>> Sent: 29 December 2014 17:09
>>> To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net
>>> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] P3 bug
>>>
>>> On Mon,12/29/2014 7:35 AM, Joe Subich, W4TV wrote:
>>>> I have never seen this but I don't have the SVGA.
>>>
>>> Nor have I. Perhaps an RF issue?
>>>
>>> 73, Jim K9YC
-- 
73,
Vic, 4X6GP/K2VCO
Rehovot, Israel
http://www.qsl.net/k2vco/



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