[Elecraft] Data Mode Sideband

Joe Subich, W4TV lists at subich.com
Sat Aug 23 16:28:38 EDT 2014


Rich is correct.  The K3 shifts the carrier frequency between AFSK and
AFSK REV (of FSK and FSK REV) but fails to account for the the exchange
of mark/space tones.

To be rigorous, MMTTY and the K3 should probably use 1275 Hz Mark in
AFSK (lower tone = higher RF frequency) and 1445 Hz Mark in AFSK REV
(higher tone = higher RF frequency).


73,

    ... Joe, W4TV


On 2014-08-23 3:55 PM, Richard Ferch wrote:
> In AFSK A the K3 displays the actual Mark frequency on its dial, not the
> suppressed carrier or BFO frequency as it does in DATA A.
>
> I believe what is happening is the following (this is the same as what Joe
> stated, just in different words and using a different PITCH setting): In
> normal AFSK A, if the PITCH setting is 1445 Hz, the two audio tones are at
> 1445 Hz Mark and 1615 Hz Space. In AFSK A - REV, the K3's dial still
> displays a frequency 1445 Hz different from the suppressed carrier
> frequency (1445 Hz higher in USB vs. 1445 Hz lower in LSB). However, in
> REV mode the tone that is 1445 Hz away from the suppressed carrier is the
> Space frequency, not the Mark frequency (i.e. it is the lower of the two
> frequencies, not the higher). This difference results in a 170 Hz
> discrepancy between the dial frequency and the actual Mark frequency (the
> higher of the two frequencies at RF).
>
> To put it another way, the K3's dial is reporting the Space (lower)
> frequency in AFSK A - REV instead of the amateur standard Mark (higher)
> frequency. If the two tones in normal AFSK A are 1445 Hz Mark and 1615 Hz
> Space, then in AFSK A - REV the two tones should be 1615 Hz Mark and 1445
> Hz Space, and the displayed dial frequency should be 1615 Hz above the
> suppressed carrier, not 1445 Hz higher.
>
> 73,
> Rich VE3KI
>
>
> VP8NO wrote:
>
> Not so sure.  I monitored the TX frequency on another RX and the only
> change was the slight shift I mentioned, not what would, in my case
> (1445Hz Mark) be approx 3kHz.
>
> Using DATA A, which really does swap sideband results in a near 3k
> frequency shift.
>
> Regards,
>
> Mike VP8NO
>
> On 23/08/2014 15:27, Joe Subich, W4TV wrote:
>>
>>> Mode AFSK A normal LSB. I assumed that if by using the ALT function
>>> and consequently switching to TX DATA REV that the sideband was
>>> switched from LSB to USB.
>>
>> It is.
>>
>
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