[Elecraft] David Cole...756ProIII vs K3
David Cole
dave at nk7z.net
Sun Apr 13 21:33:22 EDT 2014
That is what I wanted to hear, I bought teh K3 because of the filters...
I am glad to see someone saying something positive them! THANK YOU!
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Thanks and 73's,
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On Sun, 2014-04-13 at 11:04 -0700, Andy Faber wrote:
> David,
> As a long time user of Pro2s (I have one at home, along with a 7600, plus
> two on Aruba at P49Y) and K3s (one at home and one on Aruba), both radios
> have many nice attributes. The intuitive interface on the Pro2 is a plus,
> and I find it very easy to use in casual operating. The small size and many
> nifty features of the K3 make it my preferred rig. The one place where I
> notice a big difference is in CW contesting. I have done many CW contests
> in SO2R mode with the K3 and either a Pro2 or the 7600 as the second radio.
> On CW, the K3 is truly amazing. The roofing filters make you think you are
> the only guy on the band (unless someone nearby has key clicks that actually
> extend into your passband). With the Icoms, by contrast, you hear all sorts
> of weird digital artifacts in the passband as a result (I think) of IMD and
> mixing up nearby signals. The result is that your frequency doesn't sound
> like a clear freq, even if it rally is so. This is not evident in casual
> contesting, but on CW in a crowded band I definitely hear the difference
> when switching between the radios. But a good Pro2 or 3 is a very
> cost-effective choice.
> 73, andy ae6y
>
> --------------------------------------------------
> From: "David Cole" <dave at nk7z.net>
> Sent: Sunday, April 13, 2014 10:20 AM
> To: <elecraft at mailman.qth.net>
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] David Cole...756ProIII vs K3
>
> > Hi Fred,
> > I only trust exact apples to apples comparisons...
> >
> > A few miles can make a bit difference in props. I will do an A/B with
> > my Pro3, using everything the same, antenna, feedline, etc. I will keep
> > the rig that performs better.
> >
> > I have an interesting mix of conditions... 20 is very quiet and has
> > almost no noise on it, while 40 is filled with QRM. It will be
> > interesting to see what happens.
> >
> > --
> > Thanks and 73's,
> > For equipment, and software setups and reviews see:
> > www.nk7z.net
> > for MixW support see;
> > http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/mixw/info
> > for Dopplergram information see:
> > http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/dopplergram/info
> > for MM-SSTV see:
> > http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/MM-SSTV/info
> >
> >
> > On Sun, 2014-04-13 at 10:47 -0500, Fred Smith wrote:
> >> I have a newer Icom here and might have to debate the receiver issue and
> >> I'm
> >> half deaf. The Icom does have both CW and SSB filters/D-Star in it but
> >> when
> >> it comes to weak signal the K3 is superior as is the KX3. But don't get
> >> me
> >> wrong my IC-9100 is going nowhere as there is nothing on the market to
> >> replace it.
> >>
> >> A close friend K0AZ Mike has all 3 radios K2/K3/KX3/PRO-III to compare. I
> >> personally have listened to some weak signals here at home and at Mikes
> >> (20
> >> mi from me) on the phone several times using a FTDX-5000MP/K3/IC-9100. We
> >> both have similar antennas Mosley's at 55' all bands 10-40m. At times not
> >> all but sometimes I have heard the PRO-III pick up signals that I could
> >> not
> >> hear and Mike had problems with his K3.
> >>
> >> I hate to speak in generalities but some days different things just work
> >> radios and antennas both. I have had the pleasure of owning a few nice
> >> radios several at the top of the list FTDX-5000MP/K3/KX3 for the newer
> >> radios and some way down the list I enjoyed most all of them except for a
> >> very few. I've thinned the herd quite a bit and kept 1 K2/K3/KX3/IC-9100
> >> and
> >> a bunch of mobiles and HT's.
> >>
> >> I think the main thing is to just enjoy and use whatever you have, it’s a
> >> hobby after all.
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net
> >> [mailto:elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Mike Sanders
> >> Sent: Sunday, April 13, 2014 7:45 AM
> >> To: 'Tom Fitzgerald'; elecraft at mailman.qth.net
> >> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] David Cole...756ProIII vs K3
> >>
> >> I agree with Tom. I had a PROIII and then the K3. Both of these radios
> >> are
> >> here for the duration. As Tom says my K3 cost over twice what the PROIII
> >> does especially including the P3/SVGA. However I always said I thought
> >> the
> >> PROIII was the best bang for buck buy in ham radio these days. I can find
> >> strengths in both radios over the other. So I am lucky to have both in
> >> front
> >> of me. The truth is I am still learning good things about both of these
> >> rigs
> >> every day.
> >> Elecrafts track record on support tells me they will be with me and my
> >> K3 for a long time. This is a huge value consideration over other makers.
> >> I think Elecraft is pretty unique in that regard and this reflector is
> >> another factor in choice.
> >> It is a tough call if money is no object but if money is a factor (Isn't
> >> it
> >> always?) a good used PROIII is a good choice in my opinion. I bought mine
> >> new on a special special Dayton weekend some years back and paid 2.2k for
> >> it
> >> NIB from a major seller. This was just before they closed them out.
> >> If it is a new country the K3 gets the call every time. GL es 73
> >>
> >> KØAZ
> >> Mike Sanders
> >> EM37cd SW Missouri
> >> www.k0az.com
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net
> >> [mailto:elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Tom Fitzgerald
> >> Sent: Saturday, April 12, 2014 11:29 PM
> >> To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net
> >> Subject: [Elecraft] David Cole...756ProIII vs K3
> >>
> >> > "Can anyone point me at some resources to better understand why I want
> >> > a K3, as opposed to keeping my Icom 756 Pro III?"
> >>
> >> My advice...keep the ProIII & buy a K3 too...that's what I did. When the
> >> K3
> >> first came out, there was a waiting list to get one. I'm not one to wait
> >> on
> >> much of anything I want to buy and so I bought a ProIII instead. I love
> >> my
> >> ProIII and decided it was probably the smart move reasoning that the K3
> >> would likely have several (or more) "issues" & changes as time went by.
> >> The
> >> ProIII was fairly well refined by that point in time & it turned out that
> >> I
> >> was correct about the K3. I may get some static for this but I think both
> >> radios are pretty close in performance...at least as judged by my "human"
> >> ear. I filled all the slots in the K3 with the various 8 pole Inrad
> >> filters
> >> too. I like both radios just fine and would have very much regretted
> >> selling
> >> my ProIII. My K3 is a mid 3K serial number which I spent about $3K on and
> >> that was well before the price increases. The ProIII has been
> >> discontinued
> >> (obviously) by Icom now but...back in the day...I think you got more bang
> >> for your buck w ith the Icom. Again, my 2cents...don't sell it, you WILL
> >> regret it. Sorry about the SUPER late reply to your original post...I get
> >> so
> >> much "stuff" in my inbox that it's taken me this long to catch up!
> >>
> >> Tom, KD0BCF
> >>
> >> "Two possibilities exist...
> >> Either we are alone in the universe or we are not.
> >> Both are equally terrifying."
> >>
> >> Arthur C. Clarke
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