[Elecraft] How many Windows users are using Windows 98 SE?

[Bill Blomgren]

Heh.. I wrote my own bios for CP/M  - it got so big I ended up putting most 
of CP/M in a second page of memory on my system.  (and the bios had warnings 
for my compiles that would pop up on the screen screaming "Warning Will 
Robinson.. BIOS stomper" and the like...

(I did a lot of Z-80 assembly work back in the old old days.. Not 
necessarily "good" but now far enough back that the creatures I was working 
on are now dinosaurs. A Disk Operating system for a medical company based on 
use of a parallel port to did a single bit to transfer data? AEEEIII!!!!)

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Grant Youngman" <nq5t at tx.rr.com>
To: "elecraft at mailman.qth.net List" <Elecraft at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2013 6:17 PM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] How many Windows users are using Windows 98 SE?


> if we're going back that far, is anyone out there still running CP/M or 
> Phimon, or using switches to toggle in machine code one byte at a time? 
> Or worrying about the behavior of thunks in Algol and side effects of call 
> by name, or perhaps whether all of the filaments in the tubes in the 
> 64-bit accumulator are ok?
>
> :D    Grant NQ5T
>
>
> On May 28, 2013, at 5:05 PM, "Bill Blomgren" <billblom at nc.rr.com> wrote:
>
>> In the commercial world, 98 went by the wayside back when MS dropped 
>> support for it... which was somewhere in the 2000's as I remember.  (I 
>> never supported 98.. I was only in the server world there.)
>>
>> Considering the age of the computers that -can- run 98 these days, they 
>> are .. well... OLD.  I have 1 down in Charlotte that I didn't bump to XP 
>> only because I had a film scanner from Polaroid (4000 pixels per inch) 
>> that did an incredible job.. but had software that ONLY ran on 98.  4 
>> weeks after I bought that puppy ($1500 then) - Polaroid went belly up. 
>> So there have been NO updates for the drivers and guts of the scanning 
>> software.  <sigh>
>>
>> But I don't know anyone still running 98 or ME at this point.  None. 
>> LOTS of people on Linux, Mac, and Windows XP and 7.  A few running 
>> Vista.. I don't know of anyone running 8 at this point. (Uptake has been 
>> 1/2 the dismal Vista uptake, which tells you something...)
>>
>> Moving up to the next generation of Compiler would be a good thing in my 
>> eyes, but a lot of software doesn't need 64 bit versions.. (I suspect 
>> your utilities probably are some of those...) - the WOW layer handles 
>> thunking nicely so that 32 bit applications will run happily on 64 bit 
>> OS's.. Compile for 32 bit in all cases because the last version that had 
>> 16 bit support was XP as I remember.....
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dick Dievendorff" 
>> <dieven at comcast.net>
>> To: <Elecraft at mailman.qth.net>
>> Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2013 5:23 PM
>> Subject: [Elecraft] How many Windows users are using Windows 98 SE?
>>
>>
>>> I've been building the various Elecraft utilities (K3 Utility, KX3 
>>> Utility,
>>> P3 Utility, KPA Utility, XG3 Utility, K144XV Utility and XG3 Utility) 
>>> with a
>>> 2005-era compiler, because that's the most recent version of the 
>>> Microsoft
>>> Visual Studio C++ compiler that generates executables that will run on
>>> Windows 98 SE.
>>>
>>>
>>> I'd like to move to a more modern compiler, but the resulting code they
>>> generate will run only on Windows XP and later.  That is, Windows XP,
>>> Windows Vista, Windows 7, and Windows 8.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Would you be inconvenienced by this change?  I'm hoping there aren't 
>>> many.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Please let me know if you need the Windows versions of the Elecraft
>>> Utilities to run on Windows OS prior to Windows XP, and what OS you 
>>> have.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks & 73 de Dick, K6KR
>>>
>>>
>>>
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