[Elecraft] How many Windows users are using Windows 98 SE?

[Grant Youngman]

if we're going back that far, is anyone out there still running CP/M or Phimon, or using switches to toggle in machine code one byte at a time?  Or worrying about the behavior of thunks in Algol and side effects of call by name, or perhaps whether all of the filaments in the tubes in the 64-bit accumulator are ok?  

:D    Grant NQ5T


On May 28, 2013, at 5:05 PM, "Bill Blomgren" <billblom at nc.rr.com> wrote:

> In the commercial world, 98 went by the wayside back when MS dropped support for it... which was somewhere in the 2000's as I remember.  (I never supported 98.. I was only in the server world there.)
> 
> Considering the age of the computers that -can- run 98 these days, they are .. well... OLD.  I have 1 down in Charlotte that I didn't bump to XP only because I had a film scanner from Polaroid (4000 pixels per inch) that did an incredible job.. but had software that ONLY ran on 98.  4 weeks after I bought that puppy ($1500 then) - Polaroid went belly up.  So there have been NO updates for the drivers and guts of the scanning software.  <sigh>
> 
> But I don't know anyone still running 98 or ME at this point.  None.  LOTS of people on Linux, Mac, and Windows XP and 7.  A few running Vista.. I don't know of anyone running 8 at this point. (Uptake has been 1/2 the dismal Vista uptake, which tells you something...)
> 
> Moving up to the next generation of Compiler would be a good thing in my eyes, but a lot of software doesn't need 64 bit versions.. (I suspect your utilities probably are some of those...) - the WOW layer handles thunking nicely so that 32 bit applications will run happily on 64 bit OS's.. Compile for 32 bit in all cases because the last version that had 16 bit support was XP as I remember.....
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dick Dievendorff" <dieven at comcast.net>
> To: <Elecraft at mailman.qth.net>
> Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2013 5:23 PM
> Subject: [Elecraft] How many Windows users are using Windows 98 SE?
> 
> 
>> I've been building the various Elecraft utilities (K3 Utility, KX3 Utility,
>> P3 Utility, KPA Utility, XG3 Utility, K144XV Utility and XG3 Utility) with a
>> 2005-era compiler, because that's the most recent version of the Microsoft
>> Visual Studio C++ compiler that generates executables that will run on
>> Windows 98 SE.
>> 
>> 
>> I'd like to move to a more modern compiler, but the resulting code they
>> generate will run only on Windows XP and later.  That is, Windows XP,
>> Windows Vista, Windows 7, and Windows 8.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Would you be inconvenienced by this change?  I'm hoping there aren't many.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Please let me know if you need the Windows versions of the Elecraft
>> Utilities to run on Windows OS prior to Windows XP, and what OS you have.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Thanks & 73 de Dick, K6KR
>> 
>> 
>> 
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