[Elecraft] PIN for K3??

Thu Jan 31 20:21:29 EST 2013

Joe,

Yes, removal of ALL the chords and /or power supplies is a good way.

I guess I was thinking of an easy way to 'Lock' the station without
removing hardware for when I was not in front of the station but not
heading off on a shopping expedition or similar time away from the K-Line.

Your spot on with the risk of a FW lockout becoming an issue if some
critical step were to be forgotten.

The KX3 uses a 2 button Hold for On/Off, I was imagining that a 4 button
sequence (built around numbers?) would be effective but I do see the
drawbacks as you mentioned.

Still, a healthy discussion and a few moments contemplation might be
beneficial?

Certainly any 'added' FW modification needs to be placed in order with
respect to 'other' unfinished work..:-)

Regards,
Gary

On 1 February 2013 12:00, Joe Subich, W4TV <lists at subich.com> wrote:

>
>
>  Again I understand that this would not be for everyone, but I see a
>> use for the feature which of course should be 'optional'.
>>
>
> The problem with "optional" features is that they take development
> time for the benefit of a very small number of users and get in the
> way of larger projects that benefit the larger group.  In addition
> something like a 'pin' can too easily render a rig inoperative to
> its owner if something goes wrong.  I don't know of any amateur rig
> with a pin or firmware lockout and I certainly would not want such
> a capability in any rig I owned.
>
> If you need to prevent your rig from being operated by those who should
> not be doing so, unplug the power cable and take it with you or store
> it someplace secure.
>
> 73,
>
>    ... Joe, W4TV
>
>
>
> On 1/31/2013 7:37 PM, Gary Gregory wrote:
>
>> Scott,
>>
>> Personally?...I tend to agree with you. In my situation, I set up portable
>> under my Motorhome awning and I could use a 'Lockout' feature daily. I do
>> realize this is not for the shall we say majority, however I felt your
>> question was a valid one.
>>
>> I use the current K3 partial lockout feature and if FW was available to
>> allow as you suggest a 'Pin' type lockout of the full K-Line then I would
>> use that feature.
>>
>> Again I understand that this would not be for everyone, but I see a use
>> for
>> the feature which of course should be 'optional'.
>>
>> I will not validate the other comments I have read by commenting further.
>>
>> Good question, I hope Elecraft at least give your question serious
>> consideration.
>>
>> regards,
>> Gary
>>
>> On 1 February 2013 10:29, Scott W2NTV <sdunlavey at optimum.net> wrote:
>>
>>  On 1/30/2013 7:09 PM, Bill Conkling wrote:
>>>
>>>  Scott,
>>>>
>>>> Which is it?  I've read your post on at least two different lists.....
>>>>
>>>> Do you want to prevent a thief from using your radio?  Prevent him from
>>>> stealing it, lock the door.
>>>>
>>>> Do you want to keep your kids (and their friends) from messing with it?
>>>> Your own kids should know better and also, lock the door.
>>>>
>>>> Or you want to keep your irresponsible club members (lids) from messing
>>>> with
>>>> the settings?  As has been pointed out, Elecraft has provided a means of
>>>> 'locking' the CMP, MIC GAIN, and POWER settings, and it works very well.
>>>> Use it, and a little training would go a long way to acquaint your
>>>> friends
>>>> on the basics of how the radio works, and what the controls do, such as
>>>> filters, and band width.  A few experiments with the NB and NR and the
>>>> NOTCH
>>>> are also well advised.  Also, a quick SAVE settings with the K3 Utility
>>>> will
>>>> help if things get too far out of hand. (I loaned my K3 to a good
>>>> friend a
>>>> while back, and when I got it back a couple of weeks later, he'd
>>>> re-configured it to work very muck like his OMNI VI!  I re-loaded my
>>>> config
>>>> file, and was back to normal, he bought a K3.)
>>>>
>>>> My K3 has been to many field day and special events and racked up
>>>> thousands
>>>> of contacts with no ill affects, and the membership has become very
>>>> confident with it.  I feel certain that this has been partially
>>>> responsible
>>>> for several members buying K3s and other Elecraft equipment.
>>>>
>>>> But, please, "we don't need no stinkin' PINS!"
>>>>
>>>> BTW: For what it's worth, my Smart phone, doesn't actually have a PIN, I
>>>> just swipe an icon across the screen, just about anyone with a half a
>>>> brain
>>>> can make it work.  It' more of a nuisance than any protection.
>>>>
>>>> ...bill nr4c
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Scott Dunlavey [mailto:sdunlavey at optimum.net]
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2013 1:13 PM
>>>> To: nr4c at widomaker.com
>>>> Cc: elecraftyahoo; elecraft
>>>> Subject: RE: [Elecraft] PIN for K3??
>>>>
>>>> Bill, I am not suggesting you need to &^%* unlock the *&^&$# radio every
>>>> *&^%$ time you want to %$#* play radio... I am suggesting a way to make
>>>> it so LIDS at club meetings or *&^% ham operators at Field Day don't do
>>>> something they should not do... agn, just like a cell or smart phone...
>>>> that's all... Matt, I will look into the other settings, I was not aware
>>>> of that... TU
>>>> w2ntv
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>   Bill... I was asked WHY?... I then gave some reasons why it would be
>>>>
>>> helpful or useful to have a lock or PIN... I also said, it may not be for
>>> everyone and an op out or turn on/off for those people who didn't want it
>>> should be available
>>> We have passwords on our computers and email accounts, do you lock up
>>> your
>>> computer or do you leave your internet on for hackers to get in and cause
>>> problems???
>>> I just gave a suggestion on something I THINK would be of use to me... I
>>> don't think it is constructive treating me like a pinata just because you
>>> have no use for a PIN...
>>>
>>> enjoy ham radio... I do
>>>
>>> Scott
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