[Elecraft] KUSB Noise Query - K3

[Scott Monks]

    Try "disconnecting" the K3 from the program without touching anything else.  I recently discovered that if I "disconnect" my logging program (so it is not directly controlling my K3) it will reduce noise level on 15m, about half, making weak signals very readable.  When I opened the communication and control with the program the noise came back--noise or no as I activated or dis-activated the control function.  

    I am not experienced enough with this type of control to pinpoint the real source of the noise or yet how to control it, but it is there.


However, it is frustrating for me because now I can hear them but my signal is too weak to work them!!  hi, hi

Scott 




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> From: Brian Moran <brianmo at yahoo.com>
>To: Matthew Zilmer <mzilmer at magellangps.com>; john petters <tjpost at traditional-jazz.com>; "elecraft at mailman.qth.net" <elecraft at mailman.qth.net> 
>Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2012 12:10 PM
>Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KUSB Noise Query - K3
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>You may try a different K-USB. I have a K-USB that radiated terrible noise on 160m. A different one, quiet.
>-Brian N9ADG
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>From: Matthew Zilmer <mzilmer at magellangps.com>
>To: john petters <tjpost at traditional-jazz.com>; "elecraft at mailman.qth.net" <elecraft at mailman.qth.net> 
>Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2012 9:53 AM
>Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KUSB Noise Query - K3
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>USB uses differential signaling.  Your problem may not be conductive noise, but instead it could be radiated directly from the adapter, where the ferrite won't help.
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>KeySpan makes a USB - serial adapter that is pretty much noise-free.  Its model  is HS19, I think.
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>Matt Zilmer
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>-----Original Message-----
>From: elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of john petters
>Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2012 9:25 AM
>To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net
>Subject: [Elecraft] KUSB Noise Query - K3
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>Hi Folks,
>I posted a query about K3 Serial ports a few months back - we could not get the K3 to work properly with the RS232 connection. It turned out to be a fault with the sound card, which took out the serial connections.
>When I first built the K3, I bought a cheap Prolific USB converter, which radiates awful noise over the spectrum. I decided to bite the bullet and buy the proper lead, which arrived today.
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>Using my Toshiba laptop, on battery power, I get a couple of s points of noise on 10M with the KUSB connected and HRD fired up. This is using my
>2 element DJ4VM quad, which is fed with 300 ohm twin into the shack, i.e. near the laptop.
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>On LF, I can hear the pulsing information, in sympathy with the flashing LEDs on the KUSB on 160M at quite a high level. I can even detect this when fed into a Marconi dummy load. The K3 and the tuning units are bonder to an RF earth - a copper stake about 8 feet away from the K3.
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>I have tried choking the USB lead at the laptop end, which does reduce the noise to a degree.
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>The question I have is - am I being unrealistic in expecting zero noise to be radiated from these adaptors?
>Does anyone else have this problem - or has anyone looked for it?
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>It is not very noticeable on CW or SSB. To hear it best, listen in the AM mode with the AGC off. On SSB it sounds like band noise.
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>Is this a problem JUST with USB adaptors or can I expect silence when connecting a computer via RS232 to RS232.
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>If not we are sacrificing a low noise floor for the convenience of computer control.
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>Any views appreciated,
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>73
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>John Petters
>www.traditional-jazz.com
>Amateur Radio Station G3YPZ
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