[Elecraft] Remote control

Thu May 19 17:25:41 EDT 2011

Yes, it might be OK to give up full break-in to get the remote control
capability.  A lot of people don't use it anyway.

Right now I am helping out a local non-profit radio station which needs
to temporarily move their studio while the old one is brought up to
code.  I'm looking at the Barix Instreamer and Exstreamer, a pair of
little boxes that allow streaming audio over the web between the studio
and a remote transmitter.  Of course latency is not a concern in a
one-way transmission like that.

Alan N1AL

On Thu, 2011-05-19 at 22:37 +0200, Oliver Dröse wrote:
> Alan,
> 
> no problem at all and no dream anymore, the www.remoterig.com solution has 
> everything you mention already built-in, from VoIP to an own CW keyer also 
> taking care of the internet delays. Works like a charme (am using it with a 
> IC-706 with the control head being 700 km away from the rest of the radio 
> and everything else) and no problems even with 80 ms latency (read round 
> trip time). Full control over the radio, exactly the same functionality as 
> if the control head was directly connected to the radio. Have made almost 
> 1.500 QSOs with that solution during the last 2 years (not that active due 
> to QRL reasons).
> 
> Besides "modes" in their controllers for remoting the IC-706's or TS-480's 
> heads over the internet they also have profiles for using it with serial 
> connections for radio control, i.e. CAT. So a "self-made radio head" is no 
> problem either, have tried that "half-way" myself already with a small PIC 
> display I built for my FT-817. So just create a front panel, send all button 
> presses as CAT commands to the remoted radio, connect the microphone, key 
> and speaker directly to the remoterig controller and et voila, ready's your 
> remote station with an Elecraft remote head. :-))
> 
> You can do that with a CAT software on the PC, too, i.e. Ham Radio Deluxe. 
> But then you'll loose the "feeling of spinning the dial" that's why I opted 
> for the remote head solution with the IC-706 although the radio is really 
> not the best (and no comparison to my K3, of course ;-)).
> 
> I think this would be a real seller! Kenwood recently started producing and 
> selling remote heads for their TS-480's seperately besides "complete" 
> transceivers as people are starting to share their remote solutions so you 
> need 3 or 4 heads for 3 or 4 guys to access the same radio (not at once, of 
> course). ;-))
> 
> 73, Olli - DH8BQA
> Elecraft K3 #4546
> 
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Alan Bloom" <n1al at sonic.net>
> To: "Torsten Clay" <rt_clay at bellsouth.net>
> Cc: <elecraft at mailman.qth.net>
> Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2011 8:26 PM
> Subject: [Elecraft] Remote control
> 
> 
> > Yes, I had been thinking about ways to do that.  It wouldn't be hard (I
> > can say this because I'm not the one who would be doing it!) to have the
> > radio spit out control commands whenever a button is pushed.  An
> > external box could package the RS-232 commands and send them over the
> > Internet to control a remote K3.
> >
> > The issue is what to do about the audio and CW keying.  On voice modes,
> > the audio wouldn't necessarily be a problem with a wide-band connection.
> > They do it all the time with VOIP.  But with CW, even a small fraction
> > of a second delay would make full break-in impossible.  You wouldn't be
> > able to listen to your own transmitted signal since the delay would make
> > it hard to send.  You'd have to generate the sidetone locally and accept
> > the fact that the RF comes out a little bit later.
> >
> > It's fun to dream...
> >
> > Alan N1AL
> >
> >
> > On Thu, 2011-05-19 at 11:06 -0700, Torsten Clay wrote:
> >> No, this would be to enable remote operation (over an internet link). No 
> >> RF would go between the panel and the K3.
> >>
> >> People are buying TS-480's or similar to run over remote links even if 
> >> they own a K3, because the 480 panel and main box can be easily remoted 
> >> using ie www.remoterig.com.
> >>
> >> Tor
> >> N4OGW
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> --- On Thu, 5/19/11, Alan Bloom [via Elecraft] 
> >> <ml-node+6382974-1323076163-228466 at n2.nabble.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> From: Alan Bloom [via Elecraft] 
> >> <ml-node+6382974-1323076163-228466 at n2.nabble.com>
> >> Subject: Re: Something *really* new at Dayton from Elecraft
> >> To: "Torsten Clay" <rt_clay at bellsouth.net>
> >> Date: Thursday, May 19, 2011, 12:20 PM
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> You pretty much get that with the KX3 and the remote 100W amplifier.
> >>
> >> Use the amp in your home or mobile station and just unplug the KX3
> >>
> >> (a.k.a. "front panel") when you want to go QRP backpacking.
> >>
> >>
> >> Alan N1AL
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Thu, 2011-05-19 at 07:56 -0700, Torsten Clay wrote:
> >>
> >> > Here's something you might consider (or maybe already have :) )
> >>
> >> >
> >>
> >> > If the KX3 front panel is almost identical in controls to the K3, maybe 
> >> > it
> >>
> >> > could be paired with a K3 to act as a remote front panel. Similar to 
> >> > the
> >>
> >> > detachable panel functionality available with many current mobile rigs. 
> >> > The
> >>
> >> > advantage being that just the "panel" KX3 could operate as a 
> >> > self-contained
> >>
> >> > QRP radio.
> >>
> >> >
> >>
> >> > Tor
> >>
> >> > N4OGW
> >>
> >> >
> >>
> >> >
> >>
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