[Elecraft] Remote control

Thu May 19 16:37:43 EDT 2011

Alan,

no problem at all and no dream anymore, the www.remoterig.com solution has 
everything you mention already built-in, from VoIP to an own CW keyer also 
taking care of the internet delays. Works like a charme (am using it with a 
IC-706 with the control head being 700 km away from the rest of the radio 
and everything else) and no problems even with 80 ms latency (read round 
trip time). Full control over the radio, exactly the same functionality as 
if the control head was directly connected to the radio. Have made almost 
1.500 QSOs with that solution during the last 2 years (not that active due 
to QRL reasons).

Besides "modes" in their controllers for remoting the IC-706's or TS-480's 
heads over the internet they also have profiles for using it with serial 
connections for radio control, i.e. CAT. So a "self-made radio head" is no 
problem either, have tried that "half-way" myself already with a small PIC 
display I built for my FT-817. So just create a front panel, send all button 
presses as CAT commands to the remoted radio, connect the microphone, key 
and speaker directly to the remoterig controller and et voila, ready's your 
remote station with an Elecraft remote head. :-))

You can do that with a CAT software on the PC, too, i.e. Ham Radio Deluxe. 
But then you'll loose the "feeling of spinning the dial" that's why I opted 
for the remote head solution with the IC-706 although the radio is really 
not the best (and no comparison to my K3, of course ;-)).

I think this would be a real seller! Kenwood recently started producing and 
selling remote heads for their TS-480's seperately besides "complete" 
transceivers as people are starting to share their remote solutions so you 
need 3 or 4 heads for 3 or 4 guys to access the same radio (not at once, of 
course). ;-))

73, Olli - DH8BQA
Elecraft K3 #4546

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Alan Bloom" <n1al at sonic.net>
To: "Torsten Clay" <rt_clay at bellsouth.net>
Cc: <elecraft at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2011 8:26 PM
Subject: [Elecraft] Remote control

> Yes, I had been thinking about ways to do that.  It wouldn't be hard (I
> can say this because I'm not the one who would be doing it!) to have the
> radio spit out control commands whenever a button is pushed.  An
> external box could package the RS-232 commands and send them over the
> Internet to control a remote K3.
>
> The issue is what to do about the audio and CW keying.  On voice modes,
> the audio wouldn't necessarily be a problem with a wide-band connection.
> They do it all the time with VOIP.  But with CW, even a small fraction
> of a second delay would make full break-in impossible.  You wouldn't be
> able to listen to your own transmitted signal since the delay would make
> it hard to send.  You'd have to generate the sidetone locally and accept
> the fact that the RF comes out a little bit later.
>
> It's fun to dream...
>
> Alan N1AL
>
>
> On Thu, 2011-05-19 at 11:06 -0700, Torsten Clay wrote:
>> No, this would be to enable remote operation (over an internet link). No 
>> RF would go between the panel and the K3.
>>
>> People are buying TS-480's or similar to run over remote links even if 
>> they own a K3, because the 480 panel and main box can be easily remoted 
>> using ie www.remoterig.com.
>>
>> Tor
>> N4OGW
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --- On Thu, 5/19/11, Alan Bloom [via Elecraft] 
>> <ml-node+6382974-1323076163-228466 at n2.nabble.com> wrote:
>>
>> From: Alan Bloom [via Elecraft] 
>> <ml-node+6382974-1323076163-228466 at n2.nabble.com>
>> Subject: Re: Something *really* new at Dayton from Elecraft
>> To: "Torsten Clay" <rt_clay at bellsouth.net>
>> Date: Thursday, May 19, 2011, 12:20 PM
>>
>>
>>
>> You pretty much get that with the KX3 and the remote 100W amplifier.
>>
>> Use the amp in your home or mobile station and just unplug the KX3
>>
>> (a.k.a. "front panel") when you want to go QRP backpacking.
>>
>>
>> Alan N1AL
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, 2011-05-19 at 07:56 -0700, Torsten Clay wrote:
>>
>> > Here's something you might consider (or maybe already have :) )
>>
>> >
>>
>> > If the KX3 front panel is almost identical in controls to the K3, maybe 
>> > it
>>
>> > could be paired with a K3 to act as a remote front panel. Similar to 
>> > the
>>
>> > detachable panel functionality available with many current mobile rigs. 
>> > The
>>
>> > advantage being that just the "panel" KX3 could operate as a 
>> > self-contained
>>
>> > QRP radio.
>>
>> >
>>
>> > Tor
>>
>> > N4OGW
>>
>> >
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