[Elecraft] Maxwell's Equations.

Tom Azlin N4ZPT n4zpt at cox.net
Thu Mar 10 10:42:02 EST 2011


Sorry you are not enjoying the thread James.

Seems like many of the email on this reflector has nothing to do with 
the K3. I'm an average user of the K3 (and an in progress K2 builder). 
Talking about the actual equations and the history of their development 
seems to me to be of general interest to many of the readers of this 
list given the other responses.

73, tom n4zpt

On 3/10/2011 10:06 AM, JAMES ROGERS wrote:
> Enough with the Maxwell Equations.... What in the world does this represent to the average K3 user? .
> On Mar 10, 2011, at 8:21 AM, Tom Azlin N4ZPT wrote:
>
>> Hi Kevin,
>>
>> What was asserted in "The Maxwellians" was that Maxwell died in the
>> middle of a rewrite. It did sound like there was a controversy on his
>> particle (or little eddies?) form of the equations for a field approach.
>>   Perhaps that new version would have dropped  the use of quaternions?
>> Have not studied the equations since college, perhaps will go find the
>> papers after I finish this history book. Thanks for the tip on locating
>> the older forms.
>>
>> 73, tom n4zpt
>>
>> On 3/10/2011 1:46 AM, Kevin Rock wrote:
>>> There was a group which disliked his use of quaternions so he was forced
>>> to rewrite the system into other systems.  Most of the work was carried
>>> out by others but for him to publish he needed peer review so he caved
>>> into the larger group.  I am reading his original work from 1873 and
>>> finding it very enlightening.  Even though I have studied the
>>> Heaviside-Gibb's version of the Maxwell equations many times the
>>> quaternions he used in the original paper were very hard to find.  Luckily
>>> they are proliferating online these days.
>>>      Kevin.  KD5ONS
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, 09 Mar 2011 15:31:18 -0800, David Cutter<d.cutter at ntlworld.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I don't recall that from his biography, I'll have to read it again.
>>>> Interesting.
>>>>
>>>> David
>>>> G3UNA
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Hi Kevin,
>>>>>
>>>>> Was not Maxwell that condensed the hard to understand original theory.
>>>>> Was some his disciples, aka "The Maxwellians," that finished the theory
>>>>> in the present form.  FitzGerald, Lodge, and Heavyside plus others.
>>>>>
>>>>> Am just now reading "The Maxwellians" that has this story.
>>>>>
>>>>> 73, tom n4zpt
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 3/6/2011 5:37 PM, Kevin Rock wrote:
>>>>>> I have always wondered how he condensed the original twenty equations
>>>>>> in
>>>>>> twenty unknowns down to just four of them.  The quaternions he used
>>>>>> initially were out a favor with the physics community of the day so he
>>>>>> needed to get them into vector form.  Heaviside did a good job but how
>>>>>> do
>>>>>> you characterize a system with twenty unknowns in four equations?  What
>>>>>> has been lost in the translation?
>>>>>>       Kevin.  KD5ONS
>>
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