[Elecraft] SPL N/A with everybody on CW?

[Merv Schweigert]

Perhaps not difficult to understand that is does not work easily and 
does not work
as 1990 technology did? 
I can transmit on either VFO on the 1000D and I would bet that most 
other radios
did also.  To be confined to VFO A being the only transmit vfo makes 
things definitely
annoying when trying to operate the radio on two bands. 
As I said some may not care at all,  others do.  73 Merv KH7C

> Its not difficult to understand its just annoying.  Essentially we're
> all in agreement that the radio can do it.  I think that the firmware in
> the rig could actually make this happen 100% automatically.  The only
> difference is that when operating cross band split you're going to have
> relays clicking when you tx.  And depending on how its implemented to
> try and save the relays you may not be able to do QSK when using cross
> band split.  
>
> I'd be 100% ok with those limitations but having to explain to someone
> how to hit A/B and then only log in VFO A because you can't transmit
> from VFO B is going to be a pain.  Then when you explain to them well
> actually you can transmit from VFO B but only if they are both in the
> same band.  Once you get used to how well it works when you've got both
> in the same band it would just be nice to do it cross band.  At that
> point you've got pretty much an SO2R without the full duplex capability.
>
> I suppose maybe I can turn off the VFO IND feature when others run the
> radio but then they're going to think its lame in that when ever they
> change the band on one VFO the other one changes too...
>
> I've been looking into doing a macro and no matter what it seems like
> the macro is going to be somewhat annoying in that you'll have to see
> the switching and what not.  Seems like without source code you're going
> to have to be manually executing these scripts too.  So anything I end
> up with is going to be a kludge and the kludge will be just as hard to
> explain as manually pushing the buttons...
>
> Oh well.  Maybe we'll have some of these features by next FD.  If one is
> willing to put up with a bit of relay switch delay all of this is 100%
> possible.  Now its just a matter of if enough people feel its worth it
> to step a little bit away from the current K3's operating convention and
> make it happen.
>
> ~Brett (KC7OTG)
>
> On Sat, 2009-06-20 at 13:15 -0700, Bill W4ZV wrote:
>   
>> Merv Schweigert wrote:
>>     
>>> I am some what confused with the issue.   I also had assumed,
>>> that if when I installed the 2nd receiver that split operation was
>>> possible.   To say it takes a 2nd transmitters is not true.  It has
>>> to be a switching issue in what I call software, firmware by others.
>>>
>>> For instance my old FT-1000D,  if you put vfo A on 14.0 mhz
>>> and vfo B on 7.0 mhz and hit the split button you listen on 14
>>> and transmit on 7.  or you can cancel split and work whatever
>>> band is on the vfo selected.   In essence you can work two bands
>>> at the same time.  Have done that since 1990 so its no new idea.
>>> And I can use the Sub rx to listen to any band no matter if its
>>> above or below the main rx band.  
>>>
>>> What am I missing other than assuming that the K3 is lacking the
>>> basic operations of 25 year old radios?   At some point the increased
>>> performance in one area is over ridden by the lack of features in
>>> many other areas. 
>>> The idea of buying two radios to do the job is also not viable, 
>>> spending 1000 bux and doing a few mods on a 25 year old radio
>>> will yield a pretty competitive radio in comparison to 8000 worth
>>> of K3's?
>>>
>>> Seems that this can be implemented and if its not possible due to
>>> hardware we have a problem.  Maybe not for some but a lot of
>>> us. Big enough for me to reconsider keeping the K3.
>>>
>>>       
>> You can do all of the above as long as you remember that the band you want
>> to TX on **MUST** be the same one the K3's VFO A is tuned to.  If it's not,
>> then simply press A/B.  Why is this so difficult to understand?  You also
>> work cross-band but VFO A must be the band you want to transmit on.
>>
>> 73,  Bill
>>
>>     
>
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