[Elecraft] CW and VOX

David Wilburn dave.wilburn at verizon.net
Tue Apr 21 15:53:37 EDT 2009 

Oh, meant to ask, do your interfaces do ultimatic?  That may be a two 
bird with one stone deal.

Dave Wilburn
NM4M

Joe Subich, W4TV wrote:
>> If the rig is in Data mode, AFSK and VOX is turned on, then switch to 
>> SSB mode VOX is on.  Turn VOX off and switch back to Data mode, and 
>> VOX is off.
> 
> That's correct but the title here is CW and VOX ... 
> 
>> If there is a way to key for AFSK with MMTTY and DXLABs, or 
>> DXLABS and WinWarbler, I would be happy to hear the setup.  I 
>> just want to be able to switch between N1MM for CW / RTTY 
>> contests (with MMTTY for the RTTY contests) and DXLABS for 
>> casual opperating.
> 
> I do it all the time.  What interface are you using for PTT? 
> What interface for CAT?  
> 
> Assuming you are using only a single serial port for both 
> control and PTT: 
> 
>    With DXLab/WinWarbler, set Commander for PTT on RTS 
>    (Ports -> RTS = On to Transmit) and set WinWarbler 
>    PTT Mode (PTT tab) to "XCVR Ctrl SW."  
> 
>    In N1MM simply set RTS to PTT on the radio port. 
> 
> If you have two ports ... 
> 
>    In WinWarbler set PTT Mode = RTS and set FSK Control 
>    (RTTY tab) to the port (other than control) that you 
>    are using for PTT.  
> 
>    In N1MM, open the DI MMTTY configuration and set the 
>    PTT (or PTT & FSK) port on the TX tab (again - set it 
>    to the port you have selected for "Digital" in N1MM 
>    hardware configuration).     
> 
>> If there is a better RTTY software / setup that interfaces with 
>> N1MM that makes this all easier, I am willing to give that a shot. 
>> I just want something that I can setup and switch between my 
>> operating styles with minimum hassle.
> 
> N1MM/MMTTY and DXLab Suite/Commander/WinWarbler are extremely 
> simple and follow the radio seamlessly. 
> 
> 73, 
> 
>    ... Joe, W4TV 
>  
> 
> 
> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net 
>> [mailto:elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of David Wilburn
>> Sent: Tuesday, April 21, 2009 11:25 AM
>> To: Elecraft Discussion List
>> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] CW and VOX
>>
>>
>> If the rig is in Data mode, AFSK and VOX is turned on, then switch to 
>> SSB mode VOX is on.  Turn VOX off and switch back to Data mode, and 
>> VOX is off.
>>
>> I don't do FSK.  I didn't do RTTY till I got the K3, and am 
>> very happy 
>> with the AFSK.  That may change one day, but I'm good for now.
>>
>> I use DTR for keying from N1MM on CW contests, so don't want to mess 
>> around with that.  Have not gotten AFSK and DTR keying working in 
>> conjunction with Logging software and MMTTY.  Admittedly didn't give 
>> it much effort, as VOX works fine.
>>
>> Wayne has mentioned that independant VOX settings is on the list for 
>> these modes, and I am happy to use it like it is now, until the 
>> updates are made.
>>
>> If there is a way to key for AFSK with MMTTY and DXLABs, or 
>> DXLABS and 
>> WinWarbler, I would be happy to hear the setup.  I just want to be 
>> able to switch between N1MM for CW / RTTY contests (with 
>> MMTTY for the 
>> RTTY contests) and DXLABS for casual opperating.
>>
>> If there is a better RTTY software / setup that interfaces with N1MM 
>> that makes this all easier, I am willing to give that a shot.  I just 
>> want something that I can setup and switch between my 
>> operating styles 
>> with minimum hassle.
>>
>> Dave Wilburn
>> NM4M
>>
>> Joe Subich, W4TV wrote:
>>>> What happens to me, since I use VOX in RTTY for keying, then go to
>>>> SSB, and turn VOX off, then go to CW and VOX is off.
>>> Huh?  My K3 maintains separate VOX status for CW and SSB.  I can
>>> (and do) leave VOX on for CW (semi break-in) and leave VOX off 
>>> (PTT operation) for SSB.  The only linkage between modes is DATA 
>>> (AFSK A, DATA A), SSB, AM and FM.  BTW, VOX is not available in 
>>> RTTY (FSK D). 
>>>
>>> 73,
>>>
>>>    ... Joe, W4TV
>>>  
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net
>>>> [mailto:elecraft-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of 
>> David Wilburn
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, April 21, 2009 8:57 AM
>>>> To: Elecraft Discussion List
>>>> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] CW and VOX
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Been a while since I was at that load, but I do know you cannot
>>>> transmit CW without VOX on.  Several rigs I have used do this when 
>>>> using their internal keyers.
>>>>
>>>> What happens to me, since I use VOX in RTTY for keying, then go to
>>>> SSB, and turn VOX off, then go to CW and VOX is off.
>>>>
>>>> According to Wayne, per mode VOX settings are in the
>>>> pipeline, but are 
>>>> not hear yet.
>>>>
>>>> Dave Wilburn
>>>> NM4M
>>>>
>>>> John Gaynard wrote:
>>>>> Yesterday, suddenly my K3 had no RF output on CW.  It had
>>>> been a few
>>>>> days since I was on so I was kind of mystified since it 
>> worked fine
>>>>> last week. The TX light was flashing, and I could hear the 
>>>> TX relay in
>>>>> the PW-1 amp clicking.  In desperation, I went to SSB mode
>>>> and there
>>>>> was full output power when I spoke into the MIC since 
>> obviously VOX
>>>>> was on in SSB mode..  I did not consciously notice the VOX 
>>>> missing on
>>>>> the display in CW mode.  I went back to CW, and then I
>>>> noticed the VOX
>>>>> was not displaying.  I never consciously turn off VOX but
>>>> obviously I
>>>>> held the Band switch a bit too long and turned off VOX
>>>> during a band
>>>>> switch last week.  I never use the QSK option.  So I 
>> experimented a
>>>>> little bit.  I turned on VOX and QSK then I turned off VOX, then 
>>>>> turned off QSK, and SEMI appeared in the VFO B display 
>> briefly for 
>>>>> about a second.  I keyed the K3 and the TX light flashed 
>> and no RF 
>>>>> output.  Am I correct in thinking that you cannot be/should 
>>>> not be in
>>>>> SEMI mode unless VOX is turned on.  I am on firmware level 2.38.
>>>>> Without VOX or QSK turned on, you should not be able to put 
>>>> the rig in
>>>>> transmit mode by touching the key.  I generally glace at the new
>>>>> firmware releases to see if there are any relevant fixes I'm 
>>>>> interested in.  If not, I just choose not to upgrade 
>> firmware.  The 
>>>>> funny thing was that I did remember to make sure I was 
>> not in TEST 
>>>>> mode since that essentially does the same thing. 
>>>> Essentially, if VOX
>>>>> is off, QSK is off, and you are in CW mode, you are in 
>> TEST mode by
>>>>> default.  Has this been fixed in a subsequent firmware 
>>>> release. It can
>>>>> be disconcerting to suddenly turn on the K3, get ready to
>>>> chase a DX
>>>>> station, only to find you have no RF output, but everything looks
>>>>> normal. If in TEST mode, at least the TX symbol flashes.
>>>>>
>>>>>  
>>>>>
>>>>> John K8WDN
>>>>>
>>>>> K3 #157
>>>>>
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