[Elecraft] Re: The Believers

[Jim Brewster]

Gentlemen
I have been on this list for about two days and have collected innumerable 
(and that's more than enough) gripes, complaints, whinges, whines, etc. to 
outfit the neighborhood kindergarten class for a school year.  I did not 
know that this list was created for barracks room lawyers, sea lawyers and 
just plain soreheads to sound off with their opinions about Elecraft.. 
Please see your pastor, rabbi, preacher or whomever you do most of your 
griping to.  If you had come into my office when I was practicing law I 
would have had you thrown out.  I would be much happier representing 
Elecraft in its libel suit; remember, truth is not a defense to libel.  I 
would much rather have seen you in court (my Municipal Court) charged with 
interfering with my Elecraft kit construction.  Can't we all just get along. 
Your obedient servant, Jim - KE0NE
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Steve Sacco NN4X" <nn4x at embarqmail.com>
To: <elecraft at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2008 1:44 PM
Subject: [Elecraft] Re: The Believers


> Hi Tom -
>
>
> Someone can be a believer, or not, and whether you care or not is up to 
> you.
>
> However, at the risk of being accused (again) of being "on my high horse", 
> we all share a obligation to guide behavior towards something acceptable 
> to our society.  Don't you agree?   You see someone breaking into a car, 
> you call 911...right?  If you don't you're part of the problem...right? 
> Do you *LIKE* being lied to?  I'm not talking about Elecraft, I'm talking 
> in general terms:  Do you find that there's a benefit to you to business 
> with a company which takes that approach?  Would you tolerate that from 
> someone who claims to be your friend?  Your family?  Is there any 
> condition where that's a tolerable behavior?
>
> Personally, I don't think so, and I'm voicing my opinion.
>
> Now, if I was absolutely, 100% morally outraged, I'd cancel my order, and 
> go buy something else.  Due ONLY to what I've read/heard about Elecraft's 
> previous customer support, and radio performance, I'm giving them the 
> benefit of the doubt.
>
> That doesn't mean I have to accept what they're doing, or pretend that it 
> isn't happening, or, WORSE, try to minimize it by explaining it away, as 
> The Believers do.
>
> Given that Elecraft has the ability at any time to change their behavior 
> with respect to keeping their customers and perspective customers informed 
> regarding the status of the K3, and they have barely changed, I'd have to 
> take a guess that they wouldn't change a thing, if given a chance at "do 
> over".
>
> Again, there's a difference between "Things happen", and being 
> "exuberant", and keeping customers informed.  I'm calling them out on the 
> later, not the former.
>
> All IMO...
>
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> 73,
>
> Steve NN4X
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> "Issue 2: Elecraft has consistently and apparently with forethought
> knowingly kept their customers (both perspective and paying) in the
> dark about the status of the K3.  Additionally, it appears that
> they've misrepresented the actual development status of the K3, the
> KRX3 and the KDVR3.  The details have been discussed many times
> before, and it should be obvious to anyone."
>
> Hi Steve,
>
> There is no shortage of people whose chests swell an entire cup size with 
> moral indignation at the mere whiff of conspiracy. And, according to you, 
> at the other end of the scale, are those who accept the word of Elecraft 
> as gospel. If in fact there are such "Believers", what do I care? Is it my 
> job to set them straight?
>
> I don't know Wayne or Eric but I am sure if they were given the benefit of 
> hindsight that might have gone back and changed a few things. To those 
> disappointed about the sub receiver - I can understand that. I understand 
> the complaints. Wayne and Eric are big boys and I sure they know that it 
> all comes with the territory.  As a result of being a customer for the 
> past four years with Elecraft - I just don't see them creating deception 
> as part of their business plan.
>
> If Elecraft is guilty of anything it may be all due to a conflict over 
> their exuberance for the K3 and a release date. Frankly, if I could build 
> a radio like that I would find it very difficult to contain myself and 
> would have stood no chance of keeping it a secret for as long as they did.
>
> Tom, AK2B
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>  _.    _.   ...._   _.._   nn4x at embarqmail.com
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