Fw: [Elecraft] QSP?

Chuck Mabbott crmabbott at comcast.net
Tue Aug 7 17:12:07 EDT 2007


I asked my net manager about the QSP so I wouldn't blow it.......

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Chuck  AA8VS

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Hi Chuck:

Assuming one is already QNI (checked-in), and hears a station attempting to 
get the attention of NCS, the proper procedure is as follows:

Send one's call sign suffix to get the attention of NCS.
Send QNB or QSP, depending on net demeanor, followed by the call sign of the 
station attempting to QNI.  In the case of a traffic net, of course, one may 
add a "QRU" or QTC and the station's traffic list.

Example:

K8SIW is already checked-in.  K8QMN is NCS, and W8ABC is attempting to be 
heard.

NCS:  QRP Net K
SIW:   SIW
NCS:   SIW
SIW:   QNB (QSP) W8ABC QRU K
NCS:  R W8ABC AS (Standby)

A good NCS should also ask a competent net member to occasionally make a net 
call.  This is particularly important on wide-coverage nets, which may serve 
multiple states and the like.

For example, let's say K8QMN is NCS and he knows it is likely he cannot hear 
some stations.  He knows AA8VS is a competent CW operator, so he asks him to 
make a net call.  For example:

NCS:  VS (sends suffix of AA8VS)
AA8VS:  "dit" of "hr" or "K" (acknowledges he is paying attention and ready 
for an instruction).
NCS:  net call please AR  (uses the dual meaning of the prosign, which is 
"out" thereby surrendering the frequency to AA8VS)
AA8VS:  QRP Net de AA8VS K  (AA8VS makes two to three attempts, depending on 
conditions).
AA8VS:  N K (no stations heard, over - returns frequency to NCS).

Or

AA8VS:  R W8ABC QRU  AS, etc. as stations QNI.  .

Note:  AA8VS should not have to send a list to the primary NCS after he 
obtains check-ins, as the primary NCS should not appoint an alternate for 
net call whom he can not hear.  The primary NCS can certainly ask for 
clarification if necessary.

That about covers it!  For more details on CW net procedures, feel free to 
refer operators to the NREN web page segment on CW net procedures:

www.aa8vs.org/nren/docs/rnetproc.pdf

While the above document primarily outlines procedures for CW traffic nets, 
it may still be instructive.

73,

Jim




From: crmabbott at comcast.net [mailto:crmabbott at comcast.net]
Sent: Monday, August 06, 2007 11:34 AM
To: James Wades
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] QSP?

Jim
As I recall I hear W8ABC wouldn't I

at call for check in send 'A' [for example]

When acknowledged

Send AA8VS QSP W8ABC QRU K

If no traffic? If QTC pass along what I heard......

How have you been lately?

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-------------- Original message -------------- 
From: "Albers" <albers at embarqmail.com>

> I'm wondering whether some experienced net ops could chime in with 
> suggestions
> for getting more QSP going on the weekly Elecraft CW Net?
>
> I don't really know what the right protocol is, but I still have a happy 
> glow
> thinking about the one time I actually QSP'd for a station that NCS 
> couldn't
> hear. (can't recall whether it was Kevin or Tom acting as NCS at that 
> moment).
> It was a thrill to be able to relay the check-in, with my little KX-1 
> signal!
>
> Anyway, on last night's 40m net (was busy with family at 20m net time) I 
> could
> barely hear Kevin but there were a couple of stations that were very loud 
> to me,
> and I suspect might have been able to hear me. I tried sending "pse QSP" 
> once or
> twice (is that the right way to ask for help??) but didn't want to do that 
> too
> much for fear of stepping on someone.
>
> I wonder, would it work for NCS to ask "any QSP?" or some such, just 
> before
> "last call?"
>
> Now that I've said 130% of what I know, maybe someone who really knows how 
> to
> get QSPs going could chime in??
>
> 73
> Ray K2HYD
> KX-1 #608
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