http://www.thebest.net/wuggy/ Is another great site. Click on the 2003 DX contest results, scroll to page bottom and cliick link to look at last year's winner's set. My K2 has room for two ham sandwiches inside the box, but not Berthold's. ;) 73/Gil NN4CW _________________________________________________________________ Learn how to choose, serve, and enjoy wine at Wine @ MSN. http://wine.msn.com/