Slinky Beverages have been used on topband for quite some time. Some users claim great success while others claim that they're useless. The idea is to tie several of them in series and stretch them out as far as they will go without overdoing it, and terminate the far end as in a normal Beverage. If you want to try a Beverage but have limited space, it might be worth a try. 73, de Earl, K6SE