[Elecraft] Re:Alligators and Bats

[George, W5YR]

I agree, Lou, but that is the case with "any" wire dipole mounted near the
ground to obtain reflection gain. His note implied that he had something
else in mind beyond the "gain" that any relatively low dipole will provide
compared to an outer-space situation.

So, I still have the question: what wire antennas did Rod have in mind to
provide gain, compared to a dipole mounted in the same location, that are
feasible for most folks to use and that would prompt him to advise the use
of "wire antennas?" 

Joel in Maine gets by with his 40-meter wire beams but he has trees in the
right places and at the right heights, which most folk do not.

72/73/oo, George W5YR - the Yellow Rose of Texas         
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lhlousek wrote:
> 
> <<So, what "wire antennas" do you recommend to obtain "antenna gain?">>
> 
> A dipole at 1/2 wave over average ground can have a gain of about 8 dBi or ~ 6
> dBd. (that's 6 dB over a dipole in free space).  That's way better than any
> vertical or array of verticals I've seen analyzed except for those on salt
> water.  Of course the elevation angle of the main lobe of the dipole may be a
> higher but it still usually has more gain an low angles than do verticals.