[Dx4win] Z6

Joe Subich, W4TV lists at subich.com
Tue Jan 23 09:39:52 EST 2018


Paul,

Kosovo would be a *Political Entity* not a Geographic entity.  The
precedents would be Palestine and/or the Republic of South Sudan.
"Discovery Date" is not applicable to Political entities.  The
appropriate date is the "Qualifying Event" - the date on which the
political entity meets the qualification (e.g., Membership in the
UN or addition to one of the alternate "lists").

73,

    ... Joe, W4TV


On 1/23/2018 9:23 AM, Paul F6EXV wrote:
> DXCC Criteria quote
> 
> *Discovery Entity:*An Entity "Discovered" after the listing is complete. 
> This applies only to Geographic Entities, and may occur after a future 
> rule change, or after an Event has changed its status.
> 
> *Discovery Date:*Date of the rule change or Event which prompts addition 
> of the Entity. This is the Start Date for a Discovery Entity.
> UNQUOTE
> 
> Kosovo would be a discovery entity, therefore starting date should be 
> the "discovery date", in this case the rule change.
> If they count it retroactively, that means they do not understand their 
> own criteria (as they id for KH4 and KH7K recently... IMHO
> 
> 73
> Paul F6EXV
> 
> 
> Le 23/01/2018 à 15:16, Joe Subich, W4TV a écrit :
>>
>> > So I presume its ok this time but starting from this week only not b4
>>
>> My internal source says, "immediately and *retroactive*".   The interim
>> CEO is charged with drafting the new rules and determining the proper
>> "effective date".  Most likely dates are 17 Feb 2008 (Declaration of
>> Independence) or 18 February 2008 (when the US added Kosovo to the
>> Department of State list of Independent States of the World:
>> <https://www.state.gov/s/inr/rls/4250.htm>).
>>
>> My suspicion is that the DXCC rules change will be to add "Independent
>> States of the World" as an alternate to to UN Membership in (a) under
>> Political Entities - as "Dependencies and Areas of Special 
>> Sovereignty" is an alternative to the list of "Non-Self-Governing 
>> Territories" in
>> (c).
>>
>> 73,
>>
>>    ... Joe, W4TV
>>
>>
>>
>> On 1/23/2018 9:01 AM, ON4AOI wrote:
>>> Jim
>>> Just heard K5FUV work them and comments from oh2bh were
>>> Bill many tnx for the help and support on this one
>>> So I presume its ok this time but starting from this week only not b4
>>>
>>> Guy
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
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>>> On Behalf Of Jim Reisert AD1C
>>> Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2018 2:39 PM
>>> To: Roger D Johnson
>>> Cc: DX4Win Reflector
>>> Subject: Re: [Dx4win] Z6
>>>
>>> On Tue, Jan 23, 2018 at 5:03 AM, Roger D Johnson <n1rj at roadrunner.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> DX4Win ver 9 won't save Z6 contacts and country database not 
>>>> updateable.
>>>
>>> That is NOT true.  Just log them.  I have several in the log. Prefix 
>>> field
>>> is blank, but you can enter the QSOs and save the log.  Once I 
>>> release a new
>>> country file, they will automatically be credited with the correct DXCC
>>> prefix.
>>>
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