[Dx4win] Updates

Sun Jan 5 14:00:02 EST 2014

Well said, Lou.

I am another early adopter of DX4WIN, from back in the early days of 
Windows (3.1?)  I started with DXLOG (for DOS) and after a number of 
empty promises of a Win version from its developer (who lived 5 miles 
from me at the time), I switched to DX4WIN.

There are things DX4WIN could do better and more efficiently.  The only 
reason I'm still with it is I don't actively chase awards or (paper) 
QSLs any more.  If I did, I would have jumped ship a number of years 
ago.  And if it weren't for AD1C's generous support, I don't believe 
there would be many users left today.

Barry W2UP

On 1/5/2014 11:45, Lou Dietrich wrote:
> All,
>
> Great...I think a wish list web page might be a good idea....
>
> If the wish list is not acted upon by the developer, will it do any 
> good?....as some have posted, the author of this software has decided 
> not to respond to emails and this group....and therefore the wish list 
> web page may just route to the developer's trash bin...and for our own 
> edification.
>
> Not to be overly critical here...but that seems to be the situation we 
> are in with DX4WIN....
>
> As users, we have bought this software, not only for what was 
> initially developed,  but for continuing support. In today's world, a 
> logging program should do more than just logging....If we only 
> expected an initial release feature package without support, we would 
> be using DX4WIN to control aged rigs and logging basic DXCC awards!
>
> Develop a web page...and have it ignored....write directly to the 
> developer and have it ignored ....or move off to another platform and 
> tell everyone within ear shot why we did it...those are our choices.
>
> Let's face facts here...
>
> Tod, nice adage...."Nothing is impossible as long as you are not the 
> one who has to do the work." Tod, this should be restated...."Nothing 
> IS possible as long as you chose NOT to do the work.". That is the 
> situation here...the author has chosen NOT to do the work...
>
> 73
>
> Lou N2TU
>
>
> On 1/5/2014 12:44 PM, n4dsp wrote:
>>
>> Paul should put a link on the DX4WIN website for owner's to 
>> contribute their idea's to the "Wish List".
>>
>> I sent an email to Paul 2-3 weeks ago with a suggestion and did not 
>> receive a response so I resorted
>> to the DX4WIN Reflector to BE HEARD.
>>
>> Requesting some attention from the owner's of DX4WIN, the people who 
>> support the Owner, asking for
>> continuing improvements is not bad mouthing just to clarify.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 1/5/2014 12:26 PM, Tod wrote:
>>> I think that some of the postings with the subject "Updates" should 
>>> really be posted with the subject " "Additional features I wish were 
>>> present".
>>>
>>>
>>> DX4Win started as a logging program as I recall. Operating was up to 
>>> the person who had the amateur license; logging the QSO'S that 
>>> resulted from the "operating" was the job of the program.
>>>
>>>   Over time the intellectual property owner has chosen to add 
>>> features and present new Versions for sale. Some of the added 
>>> features happen to relate to operating things rather than logging of 
>>> QSO's.
>>>
>>> As purchasers and users all we can properly expect is that the 
>>> features declared to be in the Version we purchased work as they are 
>>> defined to work for the equipment environment for which they are 
>>> declared to be functional. That implies that new radios , new 
>>> rotators or new COM to USB devices are not explicitly supported. If 
>>> the IP owner chooses to modify the Version to expand the supported 
>>> equipment environment, great. The same thing is true for 
>>> logging/operating features. If the IP owner chooses to add them, fine.
>>>
>>> It seems a bit unreasonable to use the "product user reflector" to 
>>> 'bad mouth' the IP owner.
>>>
>>> Of course there is nothing wrong with making suggestions that the 
>>> product planner can consider when ( and if ) a new product or new 
>>> version is being planned. Commenting on what you wish was present or 
>>> even identifying an alternate product that has a feature you 'wish' 
>>> was present seems reasonable.
>>>
>>> Building a list of features that users "wish" were present seems 
>>> reasonable too; particularly if maintenance of such a listing is not 
>>> expected to be the job of the IP owner. It would be even nicer if 
>>> someone had that list on a web site so it could be referenced by 
>>> people. That might reduce duplicate postings about certain " not 
>>> present yet" features.
>>>
>>> One of 'The Laws of Life" is:
>>>
>>> "Nothing is impossible as long as you are not the one who has to do 
>>> the work."
>>>
>>> Tod, K0TO
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone 5
>>>
>>>
>>>> On Jan 5, 2014, at 8:24 AM, Ernie <w8eh.ernie at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Important to me:
>>>>
>>>> 1. Omnirig support so that I can run HDSDR and DX4Win connected to 
>>>> my rig at the same time.
>>>> 2. Easy way to add additional satellite names myself
>>>> 3. Easy way to add mode names myself
>>>>
>>>> Ernie W8EH
>>>>
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