[Dx4win] LATEST COUNTRY FILE PROBLEM?
Garry Shapiro
garry at ni6t.com
Fri Jan 11 05:02:08 EST 2008
Paul, Kostas, Jim:
I just tested Paul's comment with two more spots of TO5FJ on 7080. One
was gray, showed QSX 7195 and appeared in the log entry window as SSB
when double-clicked. The other was blue, showed QSX 7085 and appeared in
the log entry window as CW when double-clicked. There were no comments
re mode in either spot.
Since I had reset the CW upper limit in writelog.ini as 7040 and then
reopened DX4WIN, I was surprised still to be seeing two different colors
of spots. So it must be that the CW upper frequency limit is not a
factor in DX4WIN's mode assessment, but QSX is, to the detriment of
accuracy.
I am only pursuing this because I do key on spot colors, the 40m band
below 7100 appears to be a twilight zone for mode identification, and I
was wondering if this ambiguity is resolvable.
Garry, NI6T
Paul van der Eijk wrote:
> Guys,
> When you are in add-in-realtime mode and in the QSO Window the call is
> empty, selecting a spot
> will show the band and mode in the QSO Window, indicating what DX4WIN
> believes the
> mode is.
>
> --Paul
>
> Kostas SV1DPI wrote:
>> The answer is simple
>> the right one is the 2nd qso. The colour must be grey. This station
>> has no interest for you to confirm this country, band, mode. You
>> worked him. If you have this country unconfirmed (as you have) this
>> station can't help you more. (in some cases as zd7x - see qrz.com for
>> him- working 2nd time has as result to loose all qsos).
>> So your preferences for the cw cutoff freq for 40m probably is 7100.
>> That is not right because the most of the stations work cw under
>> 7040. So dx4win thinks that 1st and 3rd qso is cw while the 2nd one
>> is ssb. In some rare cases where i am not sure that i worked a
>> station and want to see the spots (last example with 3y0e. I worked
>> him but because of qsb i never heard the confirmition from him. So i
>> waited for the online log. Tnx God i was in!) i do this trick. I log
>> the station like /mm . That is i logged 3y0e like 3y0e/mm. Dx4win
>> knows that the maritime stations doesn't count for dxcc so the spot
>> colours don't affected.
>> Kostas sv1dpi
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Garry Shapiro" <garry at ni6t.com>
>> To: "Kostas SV1DPI" <sv1dpi at otenet.gr>
>> Cc: "REFLECTOR dx4win" <dx4win at mailman.qth.net>
>> Sent: Friday, January 11, 2008 4:53 AM
>> Subject: Re: [Dx4win] LATEST COUNTRY FILE PROBLEM?
>>
>>
>>> Kostas:
>>>
>>> Thank you for the explanation, which indeed is clear, and confirms
>>> that mode information may influence posting color. But here is an
>>> example of the specific problem, which may not fit the criteria you
>>> have listed. These spots just came in.
>>>
>>> Note: "Alert unconfirmed country" is unchecked. TO5FJ is in the log
>>> on 40 SSB.
>>>
>>> P Freq Callsign Time QSX Remarks Spotter
>>> 4 7080.0 TO5FJ 0226 simplex DL7AFV
>>> Blue letters
>>> 9 7080.0 TO5FJ 0234 7240 QSX 7240 N4YIC Gray
>>> letters
>>> 4 7080.0 TO5FJ 0242 KE5FXE Blue
>>> letters
>>>
>>> The first and third QSOs are labeled 4-Award Mode.Unconfirmed--which
>>> is the actual case---and the second QSO is "9-No Interest", which is
>>> not the case, because it is unconfirmed. The second QSO indicates
>>> by the QSX frequency--both in the QSX and Remarks columns--that the
>>> posting is SSB, which was the QSO mode, of course, so why was it gray?
>>>
>>> Garry, NI6T
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Kostas SV1DPI wrote:
>>>> dx4win looks at first the notes of every spot
>>>> if it find there a word like cw or rtty or ssb then dx4win count
>>>> this spot like this mode
>>>> if nothing related in notes then reads the frequency (if it is
>>>> available) and count the spot as cw or ssb (this is depended by
>>>> file>preferences> cw frequency cutoff)
>>>> so let's suppose you worked to5fj on 40m cw
>>>> and there is a spot like
>>>>
>>>> 7020 TO5FJ very loud
>>>>
>>>> if you have Alert unconfirmed country checked the spot will be yellow
>>>> if not the spot will be gray
>>>>
>>>> another one
>>>>
>>>> 7085 TO5FJ really strong
>>>>
>>>> the spot will be blue as dx4win thinks that this is ssb and this is
>>>> a new mode for you...
>>>> or yellow if Alert is checked
>>>>
>>>> Another one
>>>> 7085 TO5FJ pse qsy cw
>>>> then dx4win will think that the station is working cw and will spot
>>>> it like gray!!
>>>>
>>>> that is dx4win gives a priority to notes of the spot and after the
>>>> freq.
>>>>
>>>> I hope now is clear
>>>> Kostas sv1dpi
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Garry Shapiro" <garry at ni6t.com>
>>>> To: "Kostas SV1DPI" <sv1dpi at otenet.gr>
>>>> Cc: "REFLECTOR dx4win" <dx4win at mailman.qth.net>
>>>> Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2008 3:47 AM
>>>> Subject: Re: [Dx4win] LATEST COUNTRY FILE PROBLEM?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Kostas et al:
>>>>>
>>>>> WIth my DX4WIN 7.03 installation, I have noted that consecutive
>>>>> postings of TO5FJ /on the same frequency/ vary in color. That
>>>>> is--with TO5FJ in the log on 40 SSB-- three consecutive 40m SSB
>>>>> postings may show as yellow, gray, yellow (if "Alert unconfirmed
>>>>> country" is checked) or blue, gray, yellow (if "Alert unconfirmed
>>>>> country" is unchecked). I am more concerned about the lack of
>>>>> consistency than the color itself. I thought perhaps DX4WIN might
>>>>> be uncertain from posting to posting whether TO5FJ is CW, SSB or
>>>>> even RTTY.
>>>>>
>>>>> What do you think?
>>>>>
>>>>> Garry, NI6T
>>>>>
>>>>> Kostas SV1DPI wrote:
>>>>>> Under File>preferences>packet1 uncheck the alert unconfirmed country
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andrew Hewitt"
>>>>>> <andyphewitt at btopenworld.com>
>>>>>> To: <dx4win at mailman.qth.net>
>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2008 10:05 AM
>>>>>> Subject: [Dx4win] LATEST COUNTRY FILE PROBLEM?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Having been away during the first St.Bart activity I was not in
>>>>>>> any hurry to
>>>>>>> add the new country and encounter the problems that others seem
>>>>>>> to have
>>>>>>> suffered. Therefore last week I downloaded from Jim's site the
>>>>>>> latest .cty
>>>>>>> file and everything was hunky dory, until yesterday. The I
>>>>>>> worked TO5FJ and
>>>>>>> changed the prefix in the relevant box to FJ and it all worked -
>>>>>>> or seemed
>>>>>>> to. In the DXCC reports FJ is now shown as worked but every time
>>>>>>> TO5FJ is
>>>>>>> spotted I get the spot in the DX Spot window highlit in yellow
>>>>>>> as if it were
>>>>>>> an unworked country. Not much of a problem but I would prefer to
>>>>>>> just see it
>>>>>>> highlit in green as a new band/mode.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Any ideas what has happened anyone? No complaints otherwise.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 73
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Andy G3SVD
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
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