Determination, perserverance, patience, and operating skill almost always prevail against all obstacles - even those with linears and yagis. 100W and a high dipole, or vertical with good ground plane, will get through. If you are a relatively new to DX'ing, must reading is Bob Locher's book, The Complete DXer (revised edition), available from ARRL, CQ magazine. Larry, K4WLS A Little Pistol