[Dx-qsl] DXCC

Wed May 1 00:35:30 EDT 2013

Well, I for one have never seen a list of what dates TT8PK is good. I've
had some QSLs accepted and others rejected and for dates a few days apart.

I've also had a number of FO/3D2 QSLs rejected although the same
DXpeditioners were good for the  rarer islands.

A list would be helpful, but it would require assistance from the ARRL DXCC
desk. Is that going to occur?

Steve, K6UM

On Wed, May 1, 2013 at 4:20 AM, <kc5lk at comcast.net> wrote:

>
>
> From what I understand the information that the DXCC Desk keeps is the
> list of approved expeditons and because of that there is no need to track
> every expedition. If a QSO comes in from an entity or expedition that
> requires documentation and the callsign does not show up the QSO is
> rejected otherwise it is accepted.
>
>
>
> I have seen so many different ideas being presented over the past couple
> of days that I have lost count.  Hams tend to be resourceful when
> necessary, so let me propose this.  This evening I started counting the
> number of places that I know of that publishes the  list of the most recent
> expeditions that have been approved by the DXCC Desk and when I ran out of
> fingers and thumbs I decided that was enough counting.  This information is
> published either daily or weekly depending on the publication cycle which
> means the information is there for the resourceful ham.  I then wondered
> just how hard is it to  create some sort of spredsheet or database using a
> simple text editor, very easy.  The only difficult part is to remember to
> parse the data from whatever source you find it then enter it into your
> spreedsheet or database and viola you have your own source of information.
>
>
> John, KC5LK
>
> ----- Original Message -----
>
>
> From: "Ken Scheper" <kenshep at one.net>
> To: "Joe Subich, W4TV" <w4tv at subich.com>, dx-qsl at mailman.qth.net
> Sent: Tuesday, April 30, 2013 7:27:36 PM
> Subject: Re: [Dx-qsl] DXCC
>
> As a management consultant for 30 years, the first thing that perks my ears
> is the old..."we've always done it like that" comment.  LOTW seems to be
> working now and is very informative, and is re-capturing those that were
> ready to dump the ARRL due to antiquated methods of DXCC QSL checking, and
> non-support and responsiveness for my membership dollars, or ....bang for
> the buck!  Glad someone woke up !!!
>
> As has been stated, they finally "got it", but this project may be a bit
> more "sticky" due to other DX entities authorizations.  I've always been
> mystified by the DXCC.  Sometimes, as in my case, the CY0AA documentation
> was cleared efficiently and quickly.  Where the 7O1YGF, and G3JKI/5A
> expeditions were concerned, it took YEARS to get approved.  Some guidance
> from them would've been helpful, other than..."sorry, the wrong person
> signed the license".  Maybe a database maintained by DXCC of what is needed
> for each country to be approved would make things easier.  The information
> is out there, they just have to compose and decide on what IS truly needed.
>
> I know they're jobs aren't easy, but maybe they should look at changing the
> methods to make it easier for them and others.
>
> IMHO...with still a THANK YOU to the DXCC for their efforts to make it
> better in the future.
>
> 73
> Ken
> WA8JOC
>
>
>
>
> --------------------------------------------------
> From: "Joe Subich, W4TV" <w4tv at subich.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, April 30, 2013 2:30 PM
> To: <dx-qsl at mailman.qth.net>
> Subject: Re: [Dx-qsl] DXCC
>
> >
> > Quite simply anyone that says the information doesn't exist is
> > blowing smoke.  By Bill's own admission, there is a table in the
> > current DXCC program that lists approved/unapproved operations
> > and he updates it regularly - sometimes multiple times in a day.
> >
> > Expecting a third party like the Lynx group to collect bulletin
> > announcements to update a web page that does not appear to have been
> > touched in five years is absurd on its face.
> >
> > It should take a database programmer *a few hours at most* to write a
> > report generator on the DXCC software to create a list - similar to
> > what is done to generate the "DXCC Standings" and "DXCC Applications
> > Received" reports that are posted at www.arrl.org/dxcc on a daily
> > or weekly basis.
> >
> > There is nothing in this request/proposal that would increase Bill
> > Moore's work load by a single minute - that he continues to stone-
> > wall *reasonable* sunshine in the DXCC program based on his work load
> > is total nonsense.
> >
> > I've been at this "game" for 35+ years and *never* have I felt there
> > was less "customer focus" than has been displayed by one person than
> > in the last couple years.
> >
> > > To overcome the staff, I think members need to go to their Directors.
> >
> > I have made my feelings on his matter known to my Director, ARRL
> > Executive Management and Manager of the MVP Department (which includes
> > the "Awards Desk"/DXCC Program).   This is not a case of "the data does
> > not exist", "how to,"  or "time to" get the job done ... it is a simply
> > that there is no "want to".
> >
> > 73,
> >
> >   ... Joe, W4TV
> >
> >
> > On 4/30/2013 12:00 PM, dx-qsl-request at mailman.qth.net wrote:
> >> Message: 4
> >> Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2013 00:58:29 +0000
> >> From: VR2BrettGraham<vr2bg at harts.org.hk>
> >> To:dx-qsl at mailman.qth.net
> >> Subject: Re: [Dx-qsl] DXCC
> >> Message-ID:<517F1735.6020206 at harts.org.hk>
> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
> >>
> >> W3WN said:
> >>
> >>> >But if he & his staff simply don't have the time to maintain a public
> >>> >database,
> >> About seven years ago, every year I would ask for this information &
> >> never got a reply.  No mailer-daemons coming back, so it had the
> >> appearance of a member being ignored by staff.
> >>
> >> The information already exists & to present it would take all of how
> >> long it takes to add link pointing to & putting a copy of the file on
> >> the ARRL web server.
> >>
> >> Unless it's still on paper...
> >>
> >> To overcome the staff, I think members need to go to their Directors.
> >>
> >> 73, ex-VR2BG/p.
> >>
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