[Dx-qsl] Clublog/Leaderboiard run AMOK??

Wed Oct 26 01:15:12 EDT 2011

I am at a loss here. I have looked at the top 10 slots on the leaderboard
and find only one station who one could say had decent antennas. And he was
on the east coast and I feel he did a great job from that distance away from
T32C. If the top slots were filled with super stations I could agree with
some of the comments I have seen come through regarding the T32. What I will
never agree with are those individuals who were duping with others calls
just so they could gain a higher spot on the leaderboard. If one had been
paying attention before that announcement, you would have seen several calls
drop way down the scale. If you cheat at this game you are only cheating
yourself.

However I may tend to look at things differently. For all these top slots on
the leaderboard, I say kudos to these guys. It shows passion, persverance,
dedication, fortitude, and skill. They never gave up even when the going got
tough. These top slots are all from little pistol stations who have no
chance of winning say CQWW or WPX. Most had never done PSK before, myself
included. I sent email to all who were 36 slots and above saying
congratulations on your accomplishment. I recieved email back from every
single one with the same sportsmanship and humbleness I crave for. You may
go read my qrz.com page as I list what antennas I used to accomplish my goal
of getting the T32 on every slot I had capabilities for. If one does in fact
read my listing and you can call me egotistical or a power broker that
craves status, so be it. I am very proud of what I accomplished and I know
the other top slots feel the same. At least a third of the T32 team are my
friends from a club I belong to and it was a pleasure to chase the guys.
They did a bang up job indeed and I will do the same chasing for the next
ones. This email is also for the guys who were 35 slots or less.

73,
Joe WL7E

On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 3:02 PM, Ken Scheper <kenshep at one.net> wrote:

> Agree !!!  The power brokers that crave status rush run WAY MORE than legal
> power anyway.  Too bad we can't monitor the remote receivers too !!!
> 73
> Ken
> WA8JOC
>
> -------------------------------------------------
> From: "Barrie" <w6dx at att.net>
> Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2011 1:22 PM
> To: <dx-qsl at mailman.qth.net>
> Subject: Re: [Dx-qsl] Clublog/Leaderboiard run AMOK??
>
> > Amen!  Murray, you hit it right on the head.  Having searchable logs
> > available on line is extremely helpful to most of us, but the scoring is
> > just an ego trip for a few.  Drop it.
> >
> > Barrie   W6DX
> >
> > On 10/24/2011 1:22 PM, Murray Green wrote:
> >> Simply stated: "Do away with the scoring"!  It's questionable value is
> >> limited to self serving.
> >>
> >> 73, Murray, K3BEQ
> >> ------------------------
> >>
> >> Richard J. Fiero II W5TFW wrote:
> >>> UNTHINKABLE !
> >>>
> >>>                                           A.R.S. W5TFW
> >>>                                         Richard J. Fiero II
> >>>                                     ARRL Awards Manager
> >>>                                         www.6mt.com
> >>> ----- Original Message -----
> >>> From: Ron Notarius W3WN
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>   As I said to a DX newsletter editor when this news broke the other
> >>> day:
> >>>
> >>> Un - flippin' - believable.
> >>>
> >>> And "flippin" isn't exactly the precise wording I had in mind, but this
> >>> is a family reflector.
> >>>
> >>> There is a certain mentality running around our ranks these days of
> "win
> >>> at any and all costs", combined with the pseudo-legalese of "if it's
> not
> >>> expressly and specifically prohibited, it  is by default allowed."
> >>> This, sadly, is an extension of that line of thought.
> >>>
> >>> That induhviduals would stoop so low as to take unethical (IMHO) and
> >>> unsportsmanlike (IMHO) steps like these, merely to put themselves at
> the
> >>> alleged top of the heap?  Belittles them, and if we allow it, belittles
> >>> us all.
> >>>
> >>> There is no excuse for this type of behavior, and if those who are
> doing
> >>> it are caught, there should be sanctions.  But they won't be caught,
> and
> >>> even if they were, somehow the sanctions never do hold up.
> >>>
> >>> 73
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On 10/23/11, Gary K9GS<garyk9gs at wi.rr.com>  wrote:
> >>>
> >>> <snip>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> SB DX @ WW<  KB8NW $OPDX.1033
> >>> Ohio/Penn DX Bulletin No. 1033
> >>>
> >>> The Ohio/Penn DX PacketCluster
> >>> DX Bulletin No. 1033
> >>> BID: $OPDX.1033
> >>> October 24, 2011
> >>> Editor Tedd Mirgliotta, KB8NW
> >>> Provided by BARF80.ORG <http://barf80.org/> (Cleveland, Ohio)
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> * LEADERBOARD SCORING AT T32C: Michael/G7VJR and Marios/5B4WN from the
> >>> "Club Log" web page<http://www.clublog.org>  report the following:
> >>> "During the T32C expedition, a large number of stations have succeeded
> >>> in working the maximum number of slots possible, or share the same
> >>> number
> >>> of slots as a large number of other stations. Using the 'first past the
> >>> post' scoring system, those who worked these slots first are ranked
> >>> highest. Duplicates count negatively.
> >>> This scoring system has been manipulated by a small number of stations
> >>> operating illegally. They have determined that by using someone else's
> >>> callsign and working T32C, they can create duplicates and force that
> >>> callsign down the leaderboard.
> >>> Ranking changes -- In response to this problem, the scoring system for
> >>> the T32C is changing to a ranking that does not penalize duplicate
> QSOs.
> >>> This removes the loophole that is being exploited. This change will be
> >>> made live on 19th October, with the agreement of the T32C expedition
> >>> team, to improve the fairness of the scoring."
> >>>
> >>> *****
> >>>
> >>> I really thing this whole ClubLog/leaderboard thing has gotten out of
> >>> hand.
> >>> People are actually CHEATING to improve their scores....amazing.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Thoughts??
> >>>
> >>>
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