[Dx-qsl] Clublog/Leaderboiard run AMOK??

[Ken Scheper]

Agree !!!  The power brokers that crave status rush run WAY MORE than legal 
power anyway.  Too bad we can't monitor the remote receivers too !!!
73
Ken
WA8JOC

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From: "Barrie" <w6dx at att.net>
Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2011 1:22 PM
To: <dx-qsl at mailman.qth.net>
Subject: Re: [Dx-qsl] Clublog/Leaderboiard run AMOK??

> Amen!  Murray, you hit it right on the head.  Having searchable logs
> available on line is extremely helpful to most of us, but the scoring is
> just an ego trip for a few.  Drop it.
>
> Barrie   W6DX
>
> On 10/24/2011 1:22 PM, Murray Green wrote:
>> Simply stated: "Do away with the scoring"!  It's questionable value is
>> limited to self serving.
>>
>> 73, Murray, K3BEQ
>> ------------------------
>>
>> Richard J. Fiero II W5TFW wrote:
>>> UNTHINKABLE !
>>>
>>>                                           A.R.S. W5TFW
>>>                                         Richard J. Fiero II
>>>                                     ARRL Awards Manager
>>>                                         www.6mt.com
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: Ron Notarius W3WN
>>>
>>>
>>>   As I said to a DX newsletter editor when this news broke the other 
>>> day:
>>>
>>> Un - flippin' - believable.
>>>
>>> And "flippin" isn't exactly the precise wording I had in mind, but this 
>>> is a family reflector.
>>>
>>> There is a certain mentality running around our ranks these days of "win 
>>> at any and all costs", combined with the pseudo-legalese of "if it's not 
>>> expressly and specifically prohibited, it  is by default allowed." 
>>> This, sadly, is an extension of that line of thought.
>>>
>>> That induhviduals would stoop so low as to take unethical (IMHO) and 
>>> unsportsmanlike (IMHO) steps like these, merely to put themselves at the 
>>> alleged top of the heap?  Belittles them, and if we allow it, belittles 
>>> us all.
>>>
>>> There is no excuse for this type of behavior, and if those who are doing 
>>> it are caught, there should be sanctions.  But they won't be caught, and 
>>> even if they were, somehow the sanctions never do hold up.
>>>
>>> 73
>>>
>>>
>>> On 10/23/11, Gary K9GS<garyk9gs at wi.rr.com>  wrote:
>>>
>>> <snip>
>>>
>>>
>>> SB DX @ WW<  KB8NW $OPDX.1033
>>> Ohio/Penn DX Bulletin No. 1033
>>>
>>> The Ohio/Penn DX PacketCluster
>>> DX Bulletin No. 1033
>>> BID: $OPDX.1033
>>> October 24, 2011
>>> Editor Tedd Mirgliotta, KB8NW
>>> Provided by BARF80.ORG (Cleveland, Ohio)
>>>
>>>
>>> * LEADERBOARD SCORING AT T32C: Michael/G7VJR and Marios/5B4WN from the
>>> "Club Log" web page<http://www.clublog.org>  report the following:
>>> "During the T32C expedition, a large number of stations have succeeded
>>> in working the maximum number of slots possible, or share the same 
>>> number
>>> of slots as a large number of other stations. Using the 'first past the
>>> post' scoring system, those who worked these slots first are ranked
>>> highest. Duplicates count negatively.
>>> This scoring system has been manipulated by a small number of stations
>>> operating illegally. They have determined that by using someone else's
>>> callsign and working T32C, they can create duplicates and force that
>>> callsign down the leaderboard.
>>> Ranking changes -- In response to this problem, the scoring system for
>>> the T32C is changing to a ranking that does not penalize duplicate QSOs.
>>> This removes the loophole that is being exploited. This change will be
>>> made live on 19th October, with the agreement of the T32C expedition
>>> team, to improve the fairness of the scoring."
>>>
>>> *****
>>>
>>> I really thing this whole ClubLog/leaderboard thing has gotten out of 
>>> hand.
>>> People are actually CHEATING to improve their scores....amazing.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Thoughts??
>>>
>>>
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