[Dx-qsl] 7O1YGF and TT8ZB

[Osten B Magnusson]

Hi Al

I have not seen the documentation for any
P5-operation, but you say "in God we trust",
and I say "in ARRL I trust". As I have not seen
the documentation I can not tell if it was from
a central or local authority, and I suppose that
neither can you...

73/DX de Osten  SM5DQC


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Al Bailey" <k8six at comcast.net>
To: "Ron Notarius W3WN" <wn3vaw at verizon.net>; "'DX-QSL Reflector'" <DX-QSL at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Monday, March 12, 2007 5:11 AM
Subject: RE: [Dx-qsl] 7O1YGF and TT8ZB


> What about the P5 operation then, as it is my understanding the the documentation did not
> come from the CENTRAL authorities but came from LOCAL authorities? Why then was the
> P5 allowed and the 7O not allowed?
>
>
>
> At 11:16 PM 3/11/2007, Ron Notarius W3WN wrote:
>>There's no "hidden agenda" here.
>>
>>It's been well established that 7O1A did not have a license from the central
>>governmental authority, only permission from local authorities.
>>
>>And I know for a fact that past ARRL staffers have literally begged and
>>pleaded with the 7O1YGF operators for some -- any -- documentation to prove
>>that they had permission from the central government to import their
>>equipment, let alone anything that would appear to be proof of license.
>>Further, at least some team members have claimed to have this documentation
>>and have promised to foward it along; they haven't.  So your beef with the
>>7O1YGF operation lies with the operation, not with the ARRL.
>>
>>I have also talked at length with a local DX'er who spent some time in that
>>part of the world.  Suffice to say, based on his background information on
>>that part of the world, I strongly believe that the 7O1YGF team had, or
>>thought they had, permission to operate; but, someone higher in authority
>>than their contact(s) disapproved.  And that their contact(s) dare not put
>>anything on paper, as it could mean their necks (figuratively and
>>literally).
>>
>>Bottom line gang, is very simple:  You must have a valid license from the
>>entity's central governmental authority to operate from your DXCC entity for
>>it to be accepted.  These were the rules in effect at the time of the two
>>aforementioned Yemen operations.  Neither of these operations had them or
>>have proven otherwise.
>>
>>How any of this can be considered the "fault" of the ARRL in general and/or
>>the DXCC desk in particular is beyond me.
>>
>>73, ron w3wn
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: dx-qsl-bounces at mailman.qth.net
>>[mailto:dx-qsl-bounces at mailman.qth.net]On Behalf Of Doug Renwick
>>Sent: Sunday, March 11, 2007 6:32 PM
>>To: 'DX-QSL Reflector'
>>Subject: [Dx-qsl] 7O1YGF and TT8ZB
>>
>>
>>The one major complaint I have about the ARRL/DXCC is the
>>reluctance to accept Yemen contacts...7O1YGF and 7O1A by
>>DJ9ZB.
>>For some 'hidden reason' the ARRL feels that 'approved'
>>Yemen operations are not acceptable to them.  Until
>>otherwise proven, I think that it must be political in
>>nature.  It's too bad that the ARRL has soiled a good award.
>>
>>Doug
>>
>>
>>At 05:54 PM 3/11/2007, Dick Flanagan wrote:
>>
>> >Has anyone received credit for the 7O1YGF operation to
>>Yemen in
>> >April 2000?  I just had my card returned by the DXCC Desk
>>for lack
>> >of documentation.
>>
>>It will never be approved.  Which is too bad, since the
>>operators
>>were clearly where they said they were, and they had some
>>sort of permission.
>>
>>73 - Jim AD1C
>>
>>
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