[Dx-qsl] SSL added to MyQsl Service
Leonard Kay
len at k1nu.com
Tue Dec 18 18:24:50 EST 2007
Can we all please stop this thread and go back to QSLing info?
Please take this somewhere else. Hello Mr. Moderator?
73
Len K1NU
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ron Notarius W3WN" <wn3vaw at verizon.net>
To: <w4sco at sco-inc.org>
Cc: <dx-qsl at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2007 5:52 PM
Subject: RE: [Dx-qsl] SSL added to MyQsl Service
> I'll give you credit for chutzpah, sir, but that's all.
>
> Threatening to take the ARRL to court for restraint of trade for not
> giving
> you recognition? When you haven't yet asked them (as you have told me
> yourself in private emails)?
>
> Now I'm not a lawyer, nor do I play one on Television. I do know a good
> one, and I plan to ask him for his opinion of your little venture. But be
> so as it may:
>
> Exactly how do you suppose that the ARRL is allegedly performing
> "restraint
> of trade" against a service you just started, that has no takers to date,
> and that you haven't even talked to yet to see IF they would accept your
> digital images in lieu of physical cards?
>
> For all we know, you may have a way to do it that they'd be willing to
> accept. But how will anyone know if you haven't talked to them yet?
>
> Or do you believe, as it appears, that you're going to get your way merely
> by threatening them? And indirectly yet?
>
> It's enough to make one wonder about your business practices... but since
> you've already thrown the word "libel" at me privately a few times, I'll
> keep my opinions on THAT to myself and let others draw their own
> conclusions.
>
> Sheesh.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: dx-qsl-bounces at mailman.qth.net
> [mailto:dx-qsl-bounces at mailman.qth.net]On Behalf Of w4sco at sco-inc.org
> Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2007 1:26 PM
> To: Danny Douglas
> Cc: dx-qsl at mailman.qth.net
> Subject: RE: [Dx-qsl] SSL added to MyQsl Service
>
>
> Thank you for your words of reason.
> I am still waiting for at least 7 years for cards (of my own) from 20
> countries. I have sent out cards and green stamps more than once, to
> these hams. I think 7 years is long enough to wait. So i thought of a
> better system to exchange qsl cards. It is still being developed and
> modified to increase user confidence.
>
> I am considering all the comments i receive and have just added SSL
> security to the system. I have added a checkbox for the registering
> users to check that they are the lawful owner of the callsign they are
> using. I am also considering having them submit a signed copy of their
> license for me to keep on file with their other info. I may even look at
> digitally signing each card uploaded and downloaded via the system.
>
> There is a long established principle in this country that there should
> be no monopolies or restraint of trade. Once my system is as secure and
> bullet proof as I can make it I will make the ARRL aware of my service
> and the need to open their doors (or close them to all systems of
> electronic submission [LOTW]). Hopefully with enough research and
> support from hams worldwide the ARRL will accept what they must do or I
> would need to persue my rights on another path.
>
> Les W4SCO
>
>
>> -------- Original Message --------
>> Subject: Re: [Dx-qsl] SSL added to MyQsl Service
>> From: "Danny Douglas" <n7dc at vabb.com>
>> Date: Tue, December 18, 2007 1:06 pm
>> To: <dx-qsl at mailman.qth.net>
>>
>> >From the responses, it appears to me that no one WANTS a new system to
> work.
>> Why are we being negative toward an attempt to improve exchanges of
>> cards?
>> There were lots (and still are) of complaints against LOTW and eQSL as
> well.
>> And both of them work, for what they are.
>>
>> How about some positive suggestions on how to get a printed QSL from the
> DX
>> to us, without the expensive mails services, the costs of stamps, IRCs or
>> green stamps, and the long period of time between requests and receipts?
>> Today, even legal documents can be sent (and legally accepted by
>> authorities) by electronic means. If a fax can be accepted as legal
>> documentation for such things as birth, death, marriage certificates,
>> insurance paperwork, deeds, etc. why must something such as a simple
>> postcard for a hobby be such a scarey tought? There is not a one of us,
> on
>> this group email, that cant simply set down and fake any card we wish,
> then
>> send it in for acceptance. Its Our trustworthiness keeping us from it,
> and
>> for those who would fake any electronic card, there would be no
>> difference
>> between that and what they may already be doing.
>>
>>
>> Danny Douglas
>> N7DC
>> ex WN5QMX ET2US WA5UKR ET3USA
>> SV0WPP VS6DD N7DC/YV5 G5CTB
>> All 2 years or more (except Novice)
>> Pls QSL direct, buro, or LOTW preferred,
>> I Do not use, but as a courtesy do upload to eQSL for
>> those who do.
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Mr. Richard J. Fiero II W5TFW" <w5tfw at cox.net>
>> To: <dx-qsl at mailman.qth.net>
>> Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2007 12:45 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Dx-qsl] SSL added to MyQsl Service
>>
>>
>> > more Spam !
>> >
>> >
>> > Mr Richard J. Fiero II
>> > A.R.S. W5TFW
>> > Em-40 DXCC VUCC
>> > www.w5tfw.com
>> > www.6mt.com
>> >
>> > ----- Original Message -----
>> > From: "Terry" <terry at kk6t.com>
>> > To: <w4sco at sco-inc.org>
>> > Cc: <dx-qsl at mailman.qth.net>
>> > Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2007 11:43 AM
>> > Subject: Re: [Dx-qsl] SSL added to MyQsl Service
>> >
>> >
>> > > You're creating a false sense of security here. All you're insuring
> is
>> > > that the person that registered is the person uploading &
>> > > downloading.
>> > > Until you implement some way to insure that the person registering is
>> the
>> > > legal owner of the callsign it's a sham.
>> > >
>> > > 73 de Terry KK6T
>> > >
>> > > w4sco at sco-inc.org wrote:
>> > >> In response to concerns about the security level of qsl cards
> exchanged
>> > >> via MyQsl Service I have added SSL to the website. This results in a
>> new
>> > >> URL ... https://www.myqsl.cc. This should make it virtually
> impossible
>> > >> for anyone other than the registered Hams (with their callsigns) to
>> > >> upload and download qsl cards via the system.
>> > >>
>> > >> I am considering also asking users of the service to provide a copy
> of
>> > >> their signed ham license to prove that they are in fact the ham they
>> say
>> > >> they are when they register. This would mean that only licensed hams
>> are
>> > >> uploading and downloading cards on the system.
>> > >> Les W4SCO
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >> "Don't it always seem to go that you don't know what you've
>> > >> got...till it's gone." from Big Yellow Taxi (Joni Mitchell) but
>> also
>> > >> true about QSL.NET if more users don't open their wallets and help
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>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >
>> > > "Don't it always seem to go that you don't know what you've
>> > > got...till it's gone." from Big Yellow Taxi (Joni Mitchell) but
>> also
>> > > true about QSL.NET if more users don't open their wallets and help
>> > > financially. Please contribute TODAY !!
>> > >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > "Don't it always seem to go that you don't know what you've
>> got...till it's gone." from Big Yellow Taxi (Joni Mitchell) but also
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>> financially. Please contribute TODAY !!
>> >
>> >
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>>
>>
>> "Don't it always seem to go that you don't know what you've
> got...till it's gone." from Big Yellow Taxi (Joni Mitchell) but also
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> financially. Please contribute TODAY !!
>
>
> "Don't it always seem to go that you don't know what you've
> got...till
> it's gone." from Big Yellow Taxi (Joni Mitchell) but also true about
> QSL.NET if more users don't open their wallets and help financially.
> Please
> contribute TODAY !!
>
>
> "Don't it always seem to go that you don't know what you've
> got...till it's gone." from Big Yellow Taxi (Joni Mitchell) but also
> true about QSL.NET if more users don't open their wallets and help
> financially. Please contribute TODAY !!
>
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