[Dx-qsl] buro cards

Tue Sep 20 22:32:27 EDT 2005

I agree with ron....obviously a GS with every qsl is NOT needed....we try to break even, but that effort is never realized...but it's fun to try!  Obviously, the GS here and there helps to pay the bills...but think of the 'out of pocket' cost for a manager of a SASE versus a bureau card (read my other mail, and just figure your SASE costs a card and a label...maybe 5 cents at best......

73
---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
From: Ron <ron at pacinfo.com>
Date:  Tue, 20 Sep 2005 07:41:30 -0700

>Help is always appreciated but never required.
>73
>Ron
>
>At 10:39 AM 9/20/2005 -0400, Jerry Keller - K3BZ wrote:
>>I QSL every QSO for which I want a card, and I answer every card I get 
>>that wants mine. If I get a card request thru the buro or without an SASE, 
>>I know they're not in a rush and I respond via the buro. If it's me that 
>>wants the card, it's me that should pay the freight. If the DX has a 
>>manager, that's a blessing. If it's a stateside manager, it's a super 
>>blessing. For stateside managers, in the past I always included an SASE, 
>>but I haven't always included a green stamp... gotta change that. I guess 
>>these guys work for satisfaction, a feeling of contributing, and other 
>>motives of their own... but it seems only fair that we who want the cards 
>>should help them minimize their out-of-pocket.
>>My 2 cents...FWIW...  73,  Jerry K3BZ
>>
>>
>>----- Original Message ----- From: "NK0S" <nk0s at ec.rr.com>
>>To: "Ron" <ron at pacinfo.com>; <bernie at dailydx.com>; <ku9c at ku9c.com>; 
>>"'dx-qsl-mailman.qth.net'" <dx-qsl at mailman.qth.net>
>>Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2005 7:02 AM
>>Subject: Re: [Dx-qsl] buro cards
>>
>>
>>>A QSL card is the final courtesy for a QSO . . . I missed 5BWAS from YS land
>>>because the only contact I had with RI on 20m was with a HAM who "didn't
>>>believe in QSLing"....but I noticed he never sent back the YS9HH cards I
>>>sent him.
>>>Hutch, NK0S
>>>(hp1xhh, ys9hh, hl9hp)
>>>----- Original Message ----- From: "Ron" <ron at pacinfo.com>
>>>To: <bernie at dailydx.com>; <ku9c at ku9c.com>; "'dx-qsl-mailman.qth.net'"
>>><dx-qsl at mailman.qth.net>
>>>Sent: Monday, September 19, 2005 10:07 PM
>>>Subject: RE: [Dx-qsl] buro cards
>>>
>>>
>>>>Hi Bernie, I doubt that most people would be willing to spend the time
>>>that
>>>>managers do...let alone the money spent from our own pockets just to get a
>>>>card to someone. A lot of these guys think its a money making deal to be a
>>>>manager...for those of you who do... come back to reality.
>>>>When I got that email from K5WW, I should have just rolled with the punch
>>>>but I didn't. I just want to say "I am sorry for telling him to do to
>>>>himself what is humanly impossible"
>>>>
>>>>At
>>>>
>>>>09:50 PM 9/19/2005 -0400, Bernie McClenny wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> >Steve and everyone else.  It's not just the money but the time also!  And
>>>> >that is more valuable than the money.
>>>> >
>>>> >Bernie
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >Bernie McClenny, W3UR
>>>> >
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>>>> >-----Original Message-----
>>>> >From: dx-qsl-bounces at mailman.qth.net
>>>[mailto:dx-qsl-bounces at mailman.qth.net]
>>>> >On Behalf Of Steven Wheatley KU9C
>>>> >Sent: Monday, September 19, 2005 20:52
>>>> >To: dx-qsl-mailman.qth.net
>>>> >Subject: Re: [Dx-qsl] buro cards
>>>> >
>>>> >Ahhhhh...the proverbial can of worms has been opened.  For the record, I
>>>> >follow Ron and Phil's 'process'....if you've got it on a band/mode, the
>>>only
>>>> >way you'll get a second card is via a direct request.
>>>> >
>>>> >Last count of bureau cards received, where I did a 'serious tally' of the
>>>> >results, showed that about 60% (58 to be exact) were duplicates....being
>>>> >defined as the call I manage had been requested and answered before for
>>>the
>>>> >band/mode.
>>>> >
>>>> >Now, if someone wants to "help"....lets do the math on the next 70 pounds
>>>I
>>>> >get....
>>>> >
>>>> >Roughly 300 bucks for QSL cards
>>>> >Roughly 24 bucks for labels
>>>> >roughly 40 bucks to get the cards to me
>>>> >roughly 280 bucks to get the cards back out
>>>> >
>>>> >Do that math, and then look at 60% of it due to 'duplication'.  Add on
>>>top
>>>> >of that you have to often make a choice with an hour...do direct, or sort
>>>> >thru the burro cards....realizing, also, as Nenad pointed out...many have
>>>> >come via direct as well.
>>>> >
>>>> >Not having a bad day, just making those that send a card to everything
>>>that
>>>> >moves realize what the pain is.
>>>> >
>>>> >73
>>>> >
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>>>"Don't it always seem to go that you don't know what you've 
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