[Dx-qsl] xt2 question

Sat Jan 18 16:02:06 2003

Hi Gary,

Good questions.  Simple answers:

(1)  Czechoslovakia did not become the Czech Republic.  It split into the
Czech Republic and the Slovak Republic.  So as a result, Czechoslovakia went
onto the Deleted Entity list since it no longer exists, and we gain the two
new entities.

(2) Germany is a little more complicated.  There are actually three entities
that we refer to as Germany:
(a) Germany, aka PostWar Germany (when it was administered by the Allies
after WW 2).  This entity ceased to exist when East & West German (aka GDR &
FRG) were recognized as distinct DXCC entities, which I believe coincided
with their admission to the UN, give or take.
(b)  The People's Democratic Republic of Germany (GDR), aka East Germany.
This entity ceased to exist when it merged into the FRG after the fall of
the Berlin Wall and subsequent events.
(c)  The Federal Republic of Germany (FRG), aka West Germany.  This is the
entity that today we simply call Germany, the "surviving" entity if you
will.

An argument could be made that the Germany we recognize today is really the
reconstituted Germany of before, and both the FRG & GDR could be considered
deleted, but I believe the reasoning is that the FRG never ceased to exist,
ie, when the GDR was absorbed and the country re-united, you did not have a
whole entity, merely a larger one (FRG) than existed before.  I'm sure if
I'm wrong on this point someone WILL correct me <g>, but the bottom line is
that German (FRG) is the surviving entity.

(3)  Upper Volta (Voltaic Republic) changed it's name to Burkina Faso.  The
entity itself never changed.  Therefore no change on the DXCC list.  In a
similar fashion, East Timor changed how it was administered a little while
back (from UN administration to full independance) but the entity itself
never changed, therefore, no change on the DXCC list.

Trying to figure out shat are and are not (or were) entities can be quite
challenging, since the rules have changed (usually for the better) over the
past 75 years.  There are entities that are on the list today that would not
be there under today's standards, but remain as "grandfathered" entities
(and could you imagine the screaming if that ever got changed!).  Things
will get even more interesting under today's "DXCC 2000" rules, since we
will no longer be moving entities to the "Deleted List," merely erasing them
for good once they're deleted... I can just imagine what will happen the
first time we come on to one of these situations!

73, ron wn3vaw

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Gary Morgan" <[email protected]>
To: "DXQSL list" <[email protected]>
Sent: Friday, January 17, 2003 12:35 PM
Subject: [Dx-qsl] xt2 question

when czechkolovakia became the czech republic, it was considered by the dxcc
desk to have become a "new" entity. thus, if we worked the old OK1 and the
new OK1, we actually had TWO entities for dxcc credit, as i understand it.

the same is apparently true of germany. the old, divided germany was two
entities , and if worked and confirmed along with the new, unified germany,
equals three entities , again as i understand it.

so does anyone know why the voltaic republic doesn't appear on the dxcc
"deleted entity" list? at some point, it ceased to be the voltaic republic
and became burkina faso (but retained the xt prefix). unless i miss
something, seems like it, too, should be two different entities.

just curious on the history.

73s,
gary kd0al

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