[Dx-qsl] Rcvd: S50C VY1JA ZF2AF

[Ron Notarius WN3VAW]

I can't believe you used my post as an excuse to rant on proper =
listening techniques for an SWL.

To answer the direct question, although he wrote my call incorrectly on =
the card, it appears on face value that he had the date, time, and =
station I worked correct.  That is subject to log verification.  =
Considering that PZ5RA was working a small pile-up and that most of the =
QSO's were short exchanges of confirming call signs and signal reports, =
how much more do you expect?

73, ron wn3vaw

"There must be some mistake.  The Pirates in first? QRM on my end,
probably."
--John W3ULS (and there's no QRM, either)
  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: N7DC@cs.com=20
  To: wn3vaw@fyi.net ; dx-qsl@mailman.qth.net=20
  Sent: Friday, April 26, 2002 2:13 PM
  Subject: Re: [Dx-qsl] Rcvd: S50C VY1JA ZF2AF


  The SWL request brings up a question.  Did he simply give you a =
freq/date/time and station worked?  And will you send him a QSL based on =
those facts alone?  =20
    I have received several such requests and did not confirm them.  As =
a former member of the North American Shortwave Association, and being =
the number three person in the world for confirmed countries as a =
Broiadcast SWL, I do not belive that todays SWLers give enough =
information to prove their reception of signals.  For instance, lets say =
that  as ET3USA, I worked WA5UKR and UKR gave me a 57 signal report, =
used my callsign and said goodby.  Weeks later, I receive a card from =
the SWL who says he heard me working WA5UKR on 20 meters at xx time  on =
yy day etc, and wants a card from me.  Did he hear me?  No idea, if =
thats all  the info he gives me.  He could have simply heard WA5UKR =
giving me info, thus getting my call , knowing the freq and time.  So, =
if you accept a card with the info on it- did he really hear you???=20
    I have received several cards, as mentioned above, which did not =
fulfill the real requriements of proof.  What is proof?  Well it has to =
be more than date/time/freq/station worked- for the above reason.  I =
return their cards explaining this, and ask them to resend me the card, =
and supply more info. What was I talking about, did I say what type of =
equipment I was using? Antenna?  Did I mention the weather?  Something =
other than hello/goodbye?  You wouldnt ( I hope) send out a QSL card to =
a ham, without checking his card info against  your logs would you?  =
Thats proof of 2-way contact.  One-way contact is harder to prove, but =
to make them valid, they should be able to give you real  proof of  =
reception.  =20
    During my earlier days, as a SWL, we didnt send cards, but instead =
sent a letter, giving the broadcast band, time, date, RS report, and =
several instances of what we had heard: I.E.=20
  0300Zulu  Male announcer gave station ID "Radio Kenya International:=20
  0302        Female trio gave stations theme song=20
  0304         Male read ad for Foresters Beer=20
  0306          Male announcer gave weather reprot.  "Rain storm in =
Duella area,=20
                   heading NNE and expected to be in Burula in half an =
hour.=20
  etc etc etc for about 15 minutes worth of what we actually observed =
the station to=20
        be saying.=20
  Now that is proof.=20
   I dont ask for a 15 minute, word for word detail on reports, but at =
least SOMETHING other than siganl reports.  That way I KNOW they did =
hear ME.=20
     Not having read any of the SWL journals recently, I dont know if =
they are still teaching proper reporting, but I demand it.  And so =
should you, if it is to mean anything at all.=20

  HA arnt I?=20




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