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Ah .................. GOD just spoke ! Thanks everyone for the info and = help, will check IC and JAN . Thanks again. Walt k8cv ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Bill Frost=20 To: 'Walter Amos'=20 Sent: Tuesday, December 03, 2002 12:58 PM Subject: RE: CRYSTAL INQUIRY Dear Walter, Thanks for the e-mail. The R-4 receiver will require Parallel = resonant crystals, 27.5 pf load cap., Fundamental or 3rd overtone, HC-6 = holder. Regards, Bill Frost Service Manager -----Original Message----- From: Walter Amos [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Tuesday, December 03, 2002 12:18 PM To: Drake Support Subject: Fw: CRYSTAL INQUIRY Can you help me give her the info she need to make some Xtals for my = R-4, this is the old original one. Are these fundamental xtals or 3 rd overtone? I sure don't know. Do = you have any of these. What are they called as the pins are small , not = like the big pins of the xtals I am used to that we used back in the = DARK AGES ! best, Walt ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Barbara Thompson=20 To: Walter Amos=20 Sent: Tuesday, December 03, 2002 11:38 AM Subject: Re: CRYSTAL INQUIRY Dear Walt: We have manufactured for many units of Drake Amateur equipment but we = have conflicting info from various customers as far as the Load = Capacitance which is why the customer must state that. If all the = frequencies you listed are the exact crystal frequencies then I do not = understand the 12.600 or 17.100 being 3rd Overtones as I have not seen = 3rd Overtone crystals this low in frequency before (have seen them down = to 21.0 Mhz). =20 We do not manufacture 3rd Overtone crystals below 30.000 Mhz at all so = I don't think I can help you on any except the 39.100 Mhz. Your info = shows parallel resonant - but I would still need the Load Capacitance = (## pF). If you want to call me at the toll free number (800-252-6780) I will = be happy to try to make sure we are understanding correctly. Thank-you Barbara ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Walter Amos=20 To: Barbara Thompson=20 Sent: Monday, December 02, 2002 3:29 PM Subject: Re: CRYSTAL INQUIRY Hi Barb: it says ........... IMPORTANT: Only parallel resonant third overtone crystals designed = for a Miller oscillator should be used. it also saye .............. In order to determine the correct crystal frequency , simply add = 11.1 to the lowest frequency of the 500 KC range to be covered. For = example; assume you wanted to receive 1.5 to 2.0 Mc for reception of the = 160 meter amateur band. The crystal frequency would be the lowest = frequency of the desired range (1.5 Mc) plus 11.1 which would equal 12.6 = Mc. This crystal can then be inserted in any one of the ten accessory = crystal sockets provided. I also see in the manual ................ Crystals for the high frequency oscillator are of the parallel = resonant third overtone type and should have a calibration tolerance of = .001% to insure sufficient vernier tuning on highest frequencies.=20 But this may be refering to fixed frequency operation, not sure ! I = don't want that kind of xtal as it plugs into the side of the black box = rig, I want the kind with small wire pins that plug into the 10 = individual 2 pin slots in the back. Aparently you have never sold Crystals to hams with old DRAKE TWINS = before ? INTERESTING ! Walt ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Barbara Thompson=20 To: [email protected]=20 Sent: Monday, December 02, 2002 2:25 PM Subject: RE: CRYSTAL INQUIRY Dear Walt: I received your inquiry for crystals below. You will need to = verify the Load Capacitance and the following information before I can = quote price and availability on these items. 1) 12.600 Mhz. (for 160 meters ham). Fundamental crystal - = Customer must state Load Capacitance - typically 30pF or Series = Resonant. 2) 39.100 Mhz. (for 10 meter cw ham) 3rd Overtone crystal - = Customer must state Load Capacitance - typically 32pF or Series = Resonant. 3) 21.1000 Mhz (for 30 meter ham) Customer must state = Fundamental or 3rd Overtone crystal as well as Load Capacitance - = typically 30pF, 32pF or Series Resonant. 4) 17.100 Mhz (for 49 meter swl) Fundamental crystal - = Customer must state Load Capacitance - typically 30pF or Series = Resonant. I will be happy to quote price and availability when you provide = the information requested above. I MUST HAVE A DAYTIME PHONE NUMBER WHERE I CAN EITHER SPEAK WITH = YOU OR LEAVE A MESSAGE BEFORE I CAN ENTER AN ORDER FOR YOU. Please send further information to my direct e-mail address = ([email protected]). Thank-you Barbara <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> SSSSSSSS Barbara Thompson SSSSSSSS SSSSSSSS Sentry Manufacturing Co. SSSSSSSS P.O. Box 250 (1201 Crystal Park) MMMMMMMMM Chickasha, OK 73023 C C C C PH 800-252-6780 * FAX 405-224-8808 C C www.sentrymfg.com * [email protected] = <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> *********************************************************** Company: K8CV Name: Walt Amos Email_address: [email protected] Telephone: non pub Manufacturer: Drake Model_Number: R-4 Receiver Element_Icon_Number: 12.6 Mc. for 160 meters ham Crystal_Part_Number: 39.1 Mc. for 10 meter cw ham Tx_Frequency: 21.1 Mc for 30 meter ham Quantity_Tx: 1 of each Rx_Frequency: 17.1 Mc for 49 meter swl --- StripMime Report -- processed MIME parts --- multipart/alternative text/plain (text body -- kept) text/html The reason this message is shown is because the post was in HTML or had an attachment. Attachments are not allowed. Please post in Plain-Text only.---