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I have successfully used crystals from International Crystal in Oklahoma City for crystals for my R4B. They knew the specifications. Their website is: www.icmfg.com. Charles Staples WB5ZNV ----- Original Message ----- From: "Walter Amos" <[email protected]> To: "Drake List" <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, December 03, 2002 11:02 AM Subject: [Drake] Can anyone help me with this ? Fw: CRYSTAL INQUIRY > I don't know what to tell her ! What do they call the small pin xtals the > R-4 needs? > > What kind of load capacitance is she talking about ? > > Help ! > > Walt K8CV Royal Oak, MI. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Barbara Thompson > To: Walter Amos > Sent: Tuesday, December 03, 2002 11:38 AM > Subject: Re: CRYSTAL INQUIRY > > > Dear Walt: > > We have manufactured for many units of Drake Amateur equipment but we have > conflicting info from various customers as far as the Load Capacitance which > is why the customer must state that. If all the frequencies you listed are > the exact crystal frequencies then I do not understand the 12.600 or 17.100 > being 3rd Overtones as I have not seen 3rd Overtone crystals this low in > frequency before (have seen them down to 21.0 Mhz). > > We do not manufacture 3rd Overtone crystals below 30.000 Mhz at all so I > don't think I can help you on any except the 39.100 Mhz. Your info shows > parallel resonant - but I would still need the Load Capacitance (## pF). > > If you want to call me at the toll free number (800-252-6780) I will be > happy to try to make sure we are understanding correctly. > > Thank-you > Barbara > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Walter Amos > To: Barbara Thompson > Sent: Monday, December 02, 2002 3:29 PM > Subject: Re: CRYSTAL INQUIRY > > > Hi Barb: > > it says ........... > > IMPORTANT: Only parallel resonant third overtone crystals designed for a > Miller oscillator should be used. > > it also saye .............. > > In order to determine the correct crystal frequency , simply add 11.1 to the > lowest frequency of the 500 KC range to be covered. For example; assume you > wanted to receive 1.5 to 2.0 Mc for reception of the 160 meter amateur band. > The crystal frequency would be the lowest frequency of the desired range > (1.5 Mc) plus 11.1 which would equal 12.6 Mc. This crystal can then be > inserted in any one of the ten accessory crystal sockets provided. > > I also see in the manual ................ > > Crystals for the high frequency oscillator are of the parallel resonant > third overtone type and should have a calibration tolerance of .001% to > insure sufficient vernier tuning on highest frequencies. > > But this may be refering to fixed frequency operation, not sure ! I don't > want that kind of xtal as it plugs into the side of the black box rig, I > want the kind with small wire pins that plug into the 10 individual 2 pin > slots in the back. > > Aparently you have never sold Crystals to hams with old DRAKE TWINS before ? > > INTERESTING ! > > Walt > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Barbara Thompson > To: [email protected] > Sent: Monday, December 02, 2002 2:25 PM > Subject: RE: CRYSTAL INQUIRY > > > Dear Walt: > > I received your inquiry for crystals below. You will need to verify the > Load Capacitance and the following information before I can quote price and > availability on these items. > > 1) 12.600 Mhz. (for 160 meters ham). Fundamental crystal - Customer must > state Load Capacitance - typically 30pF or Series Resonant. > > 2) 39.100 Mhz. (for 10 meter cw ham) 3rd Overtone crystal - Customer > must state Load Capacitance - typically 32pF or Series Resonant. > > 3) 21.1000 Mhz (for 30 meter ham) Customer must state Fundamental or > 3rd Overtone crystal as well as Load Capacitance - typically 30pF, 32pF or > Series Resonant. > > 4) 17.100 Mhz (for 49 meter swl) Fundamental crystal - Customer must > state Load Capacitance - typically 30pF or Series Resonant. > > I will be happy to quote price and availability when you provide the > information requested above. > > I MUST HAVE A DAYTIME PHONE NUMBER WHERE I CAN EITHER SPEAK WITH YOU OR > LEAVE A MESSAGE BEFORE I CAN ENTER AN ORDER FOR YOU. > > Please send further information to my direct e-mail address > ([email protected]). > > Thank-you > Barbara > <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> > SSSSSSSS Barbara Thompson > SSSSSSSS > SSSSSSSS Sentry Manufacturing Co. > SSSSSSSS P.O. Box 250 (1201 Crystal Park) > MMMMMMMMM Chickasha, OK 73023 > C C > C C PH 800-252-6780 * FAX 405-224-8808 > C C www.sentrymfg.com * [email protected] > <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> > > *********************************************************** > Company: K8CV > Name: Walt Amos > Email_address: [email protected] > Telephone: non pub > Manufacturer: Drake > Model_Number: R-4 Receiver > Element_Icon_Number: 12.6 Mc. for 160 meters ham > Crystal_Part_Number: 39.1 Mc. for 10 meter cw ham > Tx_Frequency: 21.1 Mc for 30 meter ham > Quantity_Tx: 1 of each > Rx_Frequency: 17.1 Mc for 49 meter swl > > > _______________________________________________ > Drake mailing list > [email protected] > http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/drake