[CW] High Speed Morse Claims

martin.odenbach at t-online.de martin.odenbach at t-online.de
Tue Sep 13 06:20:14 EDT 2022


Yes, that's my experience as well. I can copy my own
call sign with more than 80 wpm but I am not able to
perform cw in that speed, and I would not recognize any
other call sign. Btw, today after 25 years without cw
exercise, I can still key with about 50 or 55 wpm but not more.
And I doubt that this is really good cw. Too many errors, if
you subtract them, the speed would dramatically go down :-)
 
There is a program (RUFZ) which simulates contest traffic.
You hear . . . nothing . . . and suddenly you hear a "kind
of crack or click" (1000 LPM9  - and Fabian DL1YFK writes down a
call sign - and it's the correct one. The next call sign
comes within a second or 6 seconds later, randomly.
Really strange. I could not believe it before I saw it.
 
It's a huge difference to copy text with sense like in
usual conversations (because due to language redundance
you fill up missing letters in the brain), or these call signs or
random text in groups with 5 letters each as we had
to write down during my 2 years of service in the german
army from 1977 on. We had to write down each letter
by hand (!), and the limit was 180 letters per minute. No mill,
just a pencil and a piece of paper - cryptographic russian
messages, partly hard to copy because the operator on the
other side was drunken or whatever...
 
Cheers
Martin
 
 
 
 
-----Original-Nachricht-----
Betreff: Re: [CW] High Speed Morse Claims
Datum: 2022-09-13T09:43:49+0200
Von: "D.J.J. Ring, Jr." <n1ea at arrl.net>
An: "martin.odenbach at t-online.de" <martin.odenbach at t-online.de>
 
 
 
I can also recognize my call sign at 199 WPM as sent on my DGM keyboard.
Nothing else, just that one group.
 
73
DR

On Tue, Sep 13, 2022 at 3:35 AM martin.odenbach at t-online.de
<mailto:martin.odenbach at t-online.de> <martin.odenbach at t-online.de
<mailto:martin.odenbach at t-online.de> > wrote:
  Recognize call in which Baudot speed ?
   
  Baudot TTY 60 is about 60 wpm and uses a start pulse which is 22
  milliseconds long.
  But it is only the start pulse. With 200 wpm (i.w. 1000 letters per
  minute) your
  callsign would be sent in approx. 30 ms :-)
   
  One of the fascinating aspects of Ted McElroy was his ability to switch
  from
  continental to international morse code.
   
  Martin
  DK4XL
   
   
   
  -----Original-Nachricht-----
  Betreff: Re: [CW] High Speed Morse Claims
  Datum: 2022-09-13T07:13:08+0200
  Von: "D.J.J. Ring, Jr." <n1ea at arrl.net <mailto:n1ea at arrl.net> >
  An: "CW Reflector" <cw at mailman.qth.net <mailto:cw at mailman.qth.net> >
   
   
   
  I can recognize my callsign in Baudot.
   
  73
   
  DR

  On Tue, Sep 13, 2022 at 1:00 AM 1oldlens1 <1oldlens1 at ix.netcom.com
  <mailto:1oldlens1 at ix.netcom.com> > wrote:
    I am given to understand that some.people can read teletype signals. 
    My memory is that Ted McElroy read something like 75 WPM. Since
    pictures of him at the contest show him wearing headphones I assume it
    was continental morse. 
     
     
     
    Sent from my Galaxy
     
     
    -------- Original message --------
    From: martin.odenbach at t-online.de <mailto:martin.odenbach at t-online.de>
    Date: 9/12/22 9:32 PM (GMT-08:00)
    To: CW Reflector <cw at mailman.qth.net <mailto:cw at mailman.qth.net> >
    Subject: Re: [CW] High Speed Morse Claims
     
    Thanks for forwaring my email.
    The last sentence should read :
     
    This record of 1000 LPM was certified. It's hard to believe
    but nevertheless true.
     
    Sorry for the confusion...
     
    Martin
     
     
     
    -----Original-Nachricht-----
    Betreff: [CW] High Speed Morse Claims
    Datum: 2022-09-13T03:34:13+0200
    Von: "D.J.J. Ring, Jr." <n1ea at arrl.net <mailto:n1ea at arrl.net> >
    An: "CW Reflector" <cw at mailman.qth.net <mailto:cw at mailman.qth.net> >
     
     
     
    Via MorseCode reflector about Morse Speeds
     
    On 9/12/2022 3:18 PM, martin.odenbach at t-online.de
    <mailto:martin.odenbach at t-online.de>  wrote:

        I am member of some speed clubs, all of them measure
        the speed in letters per minute in PARIS mode.
        100 LPM is equivalent to 20 words per minute.

        HSC High Speed Club >125 letters per minute
        VHSC Very high speed club >200 LPM
        Super high speed Club >250 LPM
        Extremly high speed Club >300 LPM (60 wpm)

        You need up to 5 sponsors who confirm that you are able
        to hold the minimum speed - which each of these clubs
        require - in qsos of at least 30 minutes. The sponsors themselves
        have to be member of the "desired" speed club, of course.

        When I became member of all of these clubs, I was about
        26 yrs young and did more or less nothing else then
        excercising extreme speed cw. Oh, I forgot to mention
        that the use of computers was forbidden - for listening
        as well as for keying. Electronic keyers were ok :-)
        I used a wonderful very heavy self made sensoric keyer with an
        ETM-1C electronic which was changed to enable it for 70
        and more wpm (> 350 LPM).

        These days, I was permanently able to copy 350 LPM
        which would be 70 wpm PARIS norm. A few of my buddies
        these days were better = faster. The best cw Operator I ever
        heard (a good friend of mine) is DF4KV. He performs like a
        machine... with an old Vibrokeyer, fluently in german and
        english. He invented the PACTOR System, together with
        DL6MAA, another absolutely outstanding cw enthusiast.
        They never met in person during the development of PACTOR,
        they communicated via cw.

        There are regular international speed contests in different modes.
        One of them is a simulation of contest traffic. In this mode,
        the world record is held from the german ham DL1YFK with
        one thousand letters per minute - this is 200 wpm.
        When you hear your own call sign in this speed, you think
        that there was some very short "click" in the line.

        This record of 1000 wpm was certified. It's hard to believe
        but nevertheless true.

        Martin
        DK4XL
        waa #025 :-)

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