[CW] Obsolete Prosigns

Darrel demerson2718 at gmail.com
Sun Jul 12 19:41:53 EDT 2020


One more trivial and obsolete reference to "VE"

I found in a 1954 version of "Scouting for Boys" by Baden Powell, in 
Chapter 7:

*"SIGNAL MEANING AND USE*

/VE, VE, VE, or AAAA Calling up signal.//
//K Carry on (answer to VE if ready to receive message).//
//Q Wait (answer to VE if not ready to receive message)."//
/

     So, there's quite a history of "VE" being used with this meaning,  
albeit in defiance of commercial and international agreements and usage.

        Cheers,
             Darrel, aa7fv & g3sys.
>> On 07/12/2020 6:48 PM Darrel <demerson2718 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>> I already posted this to the [SKCC] group, so apologies for posting 
>> here too.  I thought it might be of particular interest to this group.
>>
>> I've seen queries about the prosign "VE"  (or equally "SN") come up 
>> from time to time.  Now, ""VE" means in all contexts "Understood", 
>> but it wasn't always that way everywhere.  Very occasionally, an old 
>> timer can be heard lapsing into this earlier usage.
>>
>>
>> See "Obsolete Morse Code Prosigns" on 
>> https://wiki2.org/en/Prosigns_for_Morse_code#cite_note-:4-25 There's 
>> a reference to "1937 Royal Navy Signal Card". *"VE General call . . . 
>> _ . Code re-used for "Message verified" or "Message understood" (see 
>> SN above). "* If you follow the links to that references given on 
>> that Wiki page, there's a photo of the 1937 Royal Canadian Signal 
>> Card with VE defined as above, and also to the Royal Navy Signal 
>> Card, with a similar definition of VE as a "General Call". When I 
>> grew up using Morse, in the early 1960s, I suspect there were many 
>> ex-Royal Navy (and ex British Army) operators on the ham bands, who 
>> used the prosigns they had been taught. Hence, I grew up with "VE" 
>> meaning "General Call". I don't think either the Royal Navy or the 
>> Royal Canadian Navy felt particularly bound at the time by any 
>> commercial handbook or agreed international definition. I also found 
>> a reference to "VE" meaning "General Call" in an old Boy Scouts 
>> manual. I'm guessing that may date from Baden Powell and the Boer 
>> War. As this Wiki page says, these are "Obsolete Morse Code 
>> Prosigns", even though they were in common usage on one side of the 
>> Atlantic at one time. I do try to resist using them now, although not 
>> always successfully. Just for possible historical interest. Cheers, 
>> Darrel, aa7fv & g3sys.
>>
>>
>>
>> From https://wiki2.org/en/Prosigns_for_Morse_code
>>
>>
>> From 
>> https://hatchfive.files.wordpress.com/2014/12/e676af9a-0708-4c10-bbe1-fce8667ea652.jpg 
>>
>> The 1937 Royal Navy Signal Card
>>
>>
>>
>> From the 1937 Royal Canadian Navy Signal Card
>> http://www.forposterityssake.ca/RCN-DOCS/SIGNAL_CARD_1937.htm
>>   ______________________________________________________________
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