[CW] Obsolete Prosigns
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n7dc at comcast.net
Sun Jul 12 19:11:47 EDT 2020
I used the .. .. or I I, as late as about 12 years ago, part of ACP124, as a particular separator, between sections of messages, within diplomatic telecommunications. The BT , -...- , is a different type of part break. Back in my earlier, Army, days, I copied a dozen or more languages,and was thrown some really difficult pro-signs, and letters, which all did not mean the same thing in the different languages. It was also like having to use three hands to type some of those characters.
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> On 07/12/2020 6:48 PM Darrel <demerson2718 at gmail.com> wrote:
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> I already posted this to the [SKCC] group, so apologies for posting here too. I thought it might be of particular interest to this group.
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> I've seen queries about the prosign "VE" (or equally "SN") come up from time to time. Now, ""VE" means in all contexts "Understood", but it wasn't always that way everywhere. Very occasionally, an old timer can be heard lapsing into this earlier usage.
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> See "Obsolete Morse Code Prosigns" on https://wiki2.org/en/Prosigns_for_Morse_code#cite_note-:4-25 There's a reference to "1937 Royal Navy Signal Card". "VE General call . . . _ . Code re-used for "Message verified" or "Message understood" (see SN above). " If you follow the links to that references given on that Wiki page, there's a photo of the 1937 Royal Canadian Signal Card with VE defined as above, and also to the Royal Navy Signal Card, with a similar definition of VE as a "General Call". When I grew up using Morse, in the early 1960s, I suspect there were many ex-Royal Navy (and ex British Army) operators on the ham bands, who used the prosigns they had been taught. Hence, I grew up with "VE" meaning "General Call". I don't think either the Royal Navy or the Royal Canadian Navy felt particularly bound at the time by any commercial handbook or agreed international definition. I also found a reference to "VE" meaning "General Call" in an old Boy Scouts manual. I'm guessing that may date from Baden Powell and the Boer War. As this Wiki page says, these are "Obsolete Morse Code Prosigns", even though they were in common usage on one side of the Atlantic at one time. I do try to resist using them now, although not always successfully. Just for possible historical interest. Cheers, Darrel, aa7fv & g3sys.
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> From https://wiki2.org/en/Prosigns_for_Morse_code
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> From https://hatchfive.files.wordpress.com/2014/12/e676af9a-0708-4c10-bbe1-fce8667ea652.jpg
> The 1937 Royal Navy Signal Card
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> From the 1937 Royal Canadian Navy Signal Card
> http://www.forposterityssake.ca/RCN-DOCS/SIGNAL_CARD_1937.htm
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