[CW] WW2 Use of V instead of DE

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The AAA period and the IMI Question Mark Were used in the mid 50s by the Army, and by us Hams, and of course, still is.   The IMI you might hear in a sentence or text is the signal that the last word, before the IMI, is being Repeated.  It is normally used for People, or Place names, to insure correct copy.  So, it is really signifying two different things: the question mark, and "repeat last word"   Most of the Western world used pretty much the same codes, then you have Asia, and the Middle East, plus Russia etc. with Morse differences, since they also have different letters in their particular languages.  
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> On January 2, 2019 at 4:13 PM Richard Knoppow <1oldlens1 at ix.netcom.com> wrote:
> 
> 
>     The linked handbook is very interesting, thank you. Evidently 
> the Navy used many variations of the conventional signals during 
> the war. They seem to have decided to use the question mark sighn 
> IMI to mean repeat all of a questioned transmission and 
> introduced IMT, meaning interrogatory as the general question 
> mark sign. All of this was probably thought out and made sense at 
> the time like the change to V for DE.
>     The 1938 telecommunications convention resulted in some 
> musical chairs for CW conventional signals. Period had been III 
> and was changed to AAA. AAA was formerly the sign for the comma. 
> That was changed to MIM, formerly the sign for the exclamation 
> point. The exclamation point was the odd one out with no new sign.
>     Curiously enough the 4th edition of "Reference Data for Radio 
> Engineers" (ITT 1954) still shows III as the period symbol some 
> sixteen years after it was changed by international convention.
>     There were several international radio conventions resulting 
> in changes to procedure. The change from CQD to SOS for distress 
> was the result of one of the earlier ones (1912 I think). 
> Dropping QST as a general call for all stations came from another 
> early one. Currently, and for a long time past, QST is used 
> pretty much only by the ARRL for its general transmissions. There 
> have been continuous changes in Q signals, many of the first ones 
> became obsolete with the elimination of spark and changes in 
> operating procedures.  Old lists of Q sigs are not hard to find 
> on the web.
> 
> 
> On 1/2/2019 6:11 AM, D.J.J. Ring, Jr. wrote:
> > Just like the predecessor of "CQ" is "QST" the letter "V" was 
> > used like "DE" is used today.  The group "III" was originally the 
> > symbol for period orb"full stop."
> > 
> > According to our friend, Bill, KA8VIT:
> > 
> > In WW2 'V' was used instead of 'DE' when calling a station.
> > 
> > Example: NECO V NPY K
> > 
> > Meaning: Pearl Harbor (Submarines) calling the USS COD.
> > 
> > Nick K4NYW has a WW2 comms manual on his website for those 
> > interested at...
> > 
> > http://www.navy-radio.com/manuals/dnc5/dnc5-1944-ch6-radio.pdf
> > 
> > 73 - Bill KA8VIT / W8COD
> > 
> > ============
> > 
> > 73
> > DR
> > N1EA
> > 
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