[CW] New RadioTelegraph Operator License

Fri Jul 5 20:18:53 EDT 2013

The people I know who have taken Telegraph Operators licenses had to supply
a copy of Extra licensed issued prior to April 15, 2000.

Otherwise, you have to take the 20 wpm English test and the 16 gpm code
group test - as far as I know I didn't see if the code test had changed.

The 20 wpm English is easy, the 16 gpm ciphers are much more difficult, so
in reality the FCC erred by allowing the amateur license to parley into a
commercial license, it just isn't the same, but good amateurs certainly can
pass the 16 gpm test but many, many guys who passed the 20 wpm could not
pass the 16 gpm cipher test.

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On Fri, Jul 5, 2013 at 7:52 PM, Jim Lowman <jmlowman at sbcglobal.net> wrote:

>  So, how does one prove that one passed the 20-wpm code test for Amateur
> Extra prior to April 15, 2000?
> Or, does the FCC verify that information when one passes the written
> elements for the new "T" license?
>
> 73 de Jim - AD6CW
>
>
> On 6/13/2013 9:39 PM, D.J.J. Ring, Jr. wrote:
>
> Steve Johnson is the ONLY holder of the T type license in the USA.
>
>  Surprisingly the FCC has decided to renew the T1 and the T2 licenses but
> just to make them lifetime!
>
>  So there will be three type of Telegraph licenses, the T, the T2 and the
> T1.
>
>  Interesting!
>
>  David N1EA
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> On Tue, May 21, 2013 at 2:31 PM, <sbjohnston at aol.com> wrote:
>
>>    I'm proud to announce that the FCC granted my new RadioTelegraph
>> Operator License yesterday.  It is number T000000001, so I am the very
>> first to receive the new type of radiotelegraph ticket.  There doesn't
>> seem to be a T000000002 yet, so apparently I am the *only* holder as
>> well.  -grin-   That and $5 will buy me lunch at McDonalds.
>>
>> When the FCC announced the new radiotelegraph license structure in Ja
>> nuary (see below), I asked the FCC's helpdesk what elements would be
>> needed for me to get the new ticket.  They confirmed that applicants for
>> the new Radiotelegraph Operator License would be required to pass
>> written elements 1 and 6, and telegraphy elements 1 and 2.  I hold an
>> Amateur Extra class license issued before April 15, 2000, so my passing
>> of that 20 wpm code test would substitute for Telegraphy Elements 1 and 2.
>> I also hold a General Radiotelephone Operator License (was originally a
>> First-Phone), so that would cover written element 1.  That left me only
>> needing to take the exam for written element 6.
>>
>> ETA was the only COLEM (the commercial equivalent of volunteer examiners) that
>> responded to my email inquiries - none of the others even bothered to
>> reply.  It took me three months to work out with ETA how to take the
>> exam. Their examiners based at a nearby college apparently vanished
>> without notice, and thus there was a lot of dead-end emailing and
>> back-n-forth discussion. ETA finally offered the option to have a local
>> library proctor the exam.  I made all the library arrangements and took
>> the exam a couple weeks ago.  In just a few days ETA let me know I'd
>> passed.  Then last week they told me they needed two signed passport photos
>> for the application.  Fortunately I got their message when I was having lunch
>> next door to a Walgreens that takes such photos, near a post office where
>> I could mail them to ETA, all done in a half-hour or so.  ETA apparently
>> received the pictures in time to submit my application on the first day
>> the Commission was able to accept them, May 20.
>>
>> With the demise of commercial maritime CW, there is little practical use
>> for a radiotelegraph ticket.  Except for museum-ships and historical
>> club shore stations, there is little commercial Morse to be heard on the "ship-to-shore"
>> bands.  Why bother with a new version of an antique license?  I appreciated
>> the challenge of studying for a serious exam covering technology from a
>> very wide time range - 1920s to 2000s, and I'd like to be able to
>> operate one of the restored maritime stations some day.
>>
>> "Why do you want to climb Mount Everest?" George Mallory is famously
>> quoted as having replied, "Because it's there".   It is unlikely I will climb
>> Mount Everest, but I can always learn more about radio and electronics.
>>
>> 73   Steve WD8DAS
>>
>> sbjohnston at aol.com
>> http://www.wd8das.net/
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>>
>> - - - - - - - - - - - - -
>> Changes to FCC Radiotelegraph Operator Licenses Coming May 20
>>
>> *Effective May 20, 2013*<http://transition.fcc.gov/Daily_Releases/Daily_Business/2013/db0419/DA-13-798A1.pdf>,
>> the FCC will no longer accept applications for First (T1), Second (T2)
>> or Third Class (T3) Radiotelegraph Operator Certificates. In addition, the
>> FCC has consolidated the T1 and T2 Radiotelegraph Operator Certificates
>> into a new license class called the Radiotelegraph Operator License (T).
>> According to the FCC, this change takes effect upon renewal: T1s and T2s
>> that are renewed on or after May 20, 2013 will be renewed as Ts, but
>> existing T1s and T2s will retain their current license class for the
>> duration of the current license term. The Commission also consolidated the
>> T3 with Marine Radio Operator Permits (MP); T3s renewed on or after May 20,
>> 2013 will be renewed as MPs, but existing T3s will retain their current
>> license class for the duration of the current license term. These new rules
>> were first announced in a *Report and Order* (*WT Docket No. 10-177*<http://apps.fcc.gov/ecfs/document/view?id=7022100656>),
>> issued January 8, 2013.
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