[CW] USA News FCC Seeks Changes in MF Amateur Band (160m)

Tue Dec 4 15:39:50 EST 2012

I think I used to have a book (handbook) titled "200 meters and down".

73 - Paul - N9GXA

On Tue, Dec 4, 2012 at 3:37 PM, D.J.J. Ring, Jr. <n1ea at arrl.net> wrote:

> Also Top Band has historic basis for this, it ORIGINALLY started at 200m
> recalling "200 meters and down" which wete the start of the short waves,
> was a spark band then continuous wave came.
>
> 73
>
> DR
> N1EA
>
> On Dec 4, 2012 1:00 AM, "Radio Station K0HB" <kzerohb at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > On a contrary note, I think that experience on 160 has demonstrated that
> dynamic sharing between modes is workable and that hams have proven their
> ability to fairly self-allocate bandwidth among the various modes.  I'm not
> proposing an extension of the 160 model to other bands (yet), but I
> heartily support retaining the current open nature of the top-band.
> >
> > 73,
> >
> > de Hans, K0HB
> > --
> > "Just a boy and his radio"
> >
> >
> > On Dec 3, 2012, at 22:00, N7DC <n7dc at comcast.net> wrote:
> >
> >>
> >>
> >> I would like to readdress the idea of mode useage within the 160 meter
> band, given that we are likely to receive a full allocation of the band.
> Every other band from 80 thru 10 is allocated to specific modes, and helps
> keep incompatible operations away from each other.  CW, of course is
> allowed in the entire specturm of every other band, right up through 2
> meters, so why not do the same with 160?   I know, in the past, there were
> always comments of antenna bandwidth, which was the reason many wanted to
> use whatever mode they wanted, all the way down to the bottom of 160, but
> with today's multitude of tuners, that is simply not a good reason.  If we
> are going to get the band, now is the time to make a decision on using it.
> Given todays ability of the spotting network, it becomes more important
> that we do that, as well, as many of us are really tired of seeing a spot
> on, say 1.810, and running there only to find it is SSB and not CW.  That
> completely spoils the automatic QSY, and  mode use ability of modern
> computer to control our radios.
> >>
> >>
> >>> <compose-unknown-contact.jpg>
> >>> n5ky at q.com
> >>> Monday, December 03, 2012 11:35 PM
> >>> Filing comments is a good idea. But somehow encouraging more non
> contest
> >>> activity would be nice too. The band offers good propagation at this
> time
> >>> of year but there is almost no activity other than during a contest.
> >>> During last weekend's 160m contest I was able to work stations in all
> regions
> >>> of the country from here in NM with nothing other than a quarter wave
> length
> >>> of wire at 25 feet. But on any non contest evening it's like
> >>> pulling teeth to get a QSO. On the reverse beacon network I can see
> good signal
> >>> reports of my CQs but rarely any takers. So the propagation is fine
> but the
> >>> activity just isn't there....unless there's a contest. I think Amateur
> Radio
> >>> has mutated largly into just a contesting sport. Remember the days
> when a QSO
> >>> lasted longer than an exchange of 599s and then QRZ? Maybe I'm just
> getting
> >>> old but I miss the ragchew era of Amateur Radio. And I wonder why the
> FCC
> >>> would give us primary allocation just so we could use the band for 3
> contests
> >>> per year. Jim N5KY
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> .........................................................................
> >>> FCC PROPOSES TO RESTORE 1900-2000 KHZ IN THE 160M BAND TO PRIMARY
> STATUS
> >>>
> >>> In ET Docket 12-338 the FCC proposes to raise the secondary amateur
> >>> service allocation in the 1900-2000 kHz band segment to primary
> status,
> >>> providing amateur radio operators nearly exclusive use of the band. At
> >>> present, amateur use of the top half of the 160m band is on a
> secondary
> >>> basis, shared with Radiolocation beacons that have priority over
> >>> amateurs on any shared frequency.
> >>>
> >>> With the avilability of the GPS satellite system for civilian use,
> >>> radiolocation beacons have virtually disappeared from the 1700-1800
> kHz
> >>> and 1900-2000 kHz bands, but our "secondary" status remains, leaving
> us
> >>> vulnerable to the whims of Radiolocation interests in the event that
> >>> they, for whatever reason, might decide to once again operate beacons
> in
> >>> our band.
> >>>
> >>> The FCC is now accepting comments from interested parties. I would
> >>> encourage everyone who has any interest in 160m to file comments of
> your
> >>> own in support of this proposal. Comments already submitted on all
> >>> proposals contained in the Docket may be viewed at
> >>> http://apps.fcc.gov/ecfs/proceeding/view?name=12-338
> >>>
> >>> Rulemaking proposal ET-Docket 12-338 may be viewed in its entirety at
> >>> http://apps.fcc.gov/ecfs/comment/view?id=6017137896 For specifics on
> >>> the 160m proposal, scroll down to page 11, beginning at paragraph 20.
> >>>
> >>> ET-Docket 12-338 may be viewed also at
> >>> http://apps.fcc.gov/ecfs/document/view?id=7022061247 or downloaded in
> >>> PDF form at
> >>>
> http://transition.fcc.gov/Daily_Releases/Daily_Business/2012/db1119/FCC-12-140A1.pdf
> >>>
> >>> For information on the FCC's Electronic Comment Filing System go to
> >>> http://apps.fcc.gov/ecfs/
> >>>
> >>> For detailed instructions on how to file comments using ECFS, go to
> >>> http://apps.fcc.gov/ecfs/userManual/ecfsmanual.jsp
> >>>
> >>> The first submitted comment addressing 160m reallocation may be viewed
> >>> at http://apps.fcc.gov/ecfs/comment/view?id=6017141101
> >>>
> >>> The International Telecommunications Union frequency allocation chart
> >>> may be viewed at http://www.kloth.net/radio/freq-itu.php
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> >>>
> >>> <compose-unknown-contact.jpg>
> >>> Donald Chester
> >>> Monday, December 03, 2012 8:15 PM
> >>> FCC PROPOSES TO RESTORE 1900-2000 KHZ IN THE 160M BAND TO PRIMARY
> STATUS
> >>>
> >>> In ET Docket 12-338 the FCC proposes to raise the secondary amateur
> service allocation in the 1900-2000 kHz band segment to primary status,
> providing amateur radio operators nearly exclusive use of the band. At
> present, amateur use of the top half of the 160m band is on a secondary
> basis, shared with Radiolocation beacons that have priority over amateurs
> on any shared frequency.
> >>>
> >>> With the avilability of the GPS satellite system for civilian use,
> radiolocation beacons have virtually disappeared from the 1700-1800 kHz and
> 1900-2000 kHz bands, but our "secondary" status remains, leaving us
> vulnerable to the whims of Radiolocation interests in the event that they,
> for whatever reason, might decide to once again operate beacons in our
> band.
> >>>
> >>> The FCC is now accepting comments from interested parties. I would
> encourage everyone who has any interest in 160m to file comments of your
> own in support of this proposal. Comments already submitted on all
> proposals contained in the Docket may be viewed at
> http://apps.fcc.gov/ecfs/proceeding/view?name=12-338
> >>>
> >>> Rulemaking proposal ET-Docket 12-338 may be viewed in its entirety at
> http://apps.fcc.gov/ecfs/comment/view?id=6017137896  For specifics on the
> 160m proposal, scroll down to page 11, beginning at paragraph 20.
> >>>
> >>> ET-Docket 12-338 may be viewed also at
> http://apps.fcc.gov/ecfs/document/view?id=7022061247 or downloaded in PDF
> form at
> http://transition.fcc.gov/Daily_Releases/Daily_Business/2012/db1119/FCC-12-140A1.pdf
> >>>
> >>> For information on the FCC's Electronic Comment Filing System go to
> http://apps.fcc.gov/ecfs/
> >>>
> >>> For detailed instructions on how to file comments using ECFS, go to
> http://apps.fcc.gov/ecfs/userManual/ecfsmanual.jsp
> >>>
> >>> The first submitted comment addressing 160m reallocation may be viewed
> at  http://apps.fcc.gov/ecfs/comment/view?id=6017141101
> >>>
> >>> The International Telecommunications Union frequency allocation chart
> may be viewed at  http://www.kloth.net/radio/freq-itu.php
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> >>>
> >>> ________________________________
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> Danny Douglas
> >> N7DC
> >> ex WN5QMX ET2US WA5UKR ET3USA SV0WPP VS6DD N7DC/YV5 G5CTB    all 2
> years or more (except Novice)  Short stints at:
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> >> Pls QSL Direct, buro or LOTW -preferred
> >> I do not use, but as a courtesy do upload to eQSL for those who do.
> >>
> >> Moderator:
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> >>
> >>
> >>
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